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Reverse Engineering, 3d scanning to create a Solid model

01/28/2008 9:47 AM

I have a old somewhat complex raw casting that I need to make into a 3d solid model , The drawings of the finished product are old very hard to read But I can work with that, I am looking into a 3rd party to Reverse Engineering or 3d scanning to create 3d solid. I have a digitized model (3d wires) very hard to work with to create a solid. Has anyone had a 3d scanning service Co. scan & create a 3d model with good results , A clean solid model not "surface model". And was this service cost effective ?

I am using Inventor

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Re: Reverse Engineering, 3d scanning to create a Solid model

01/28/2008 10:04 AM

To what use are you going to put the final 3D CAD model? I've worked with ADC (www.adcinc1.com) for getting triangulated scan (STL files), IGES surfaces, and fully featured (SolidWorks or Pro/Engineer) parametric files. I've also had Direct Dimensions (www.directdimensions.com) recommended to me (on the SME board), and they're even closer to you than they are to me. Of course, needing the fully featured model in Inventor may limit the suppliers who can help, but I suggest you give those two a try.

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01/28/2008 10:35 AM

Well "4 uses" 1. I plan on using it to make a new "casting drawing" there is none that we can find. 2. Then add the machined features to replace the (Old "hand drawn"ones are very hard to read) there for the machinist and for inspection 3. To create tooling/fixturing for manufacturing "CNC". 4. Import into Cam for machining end, also "CNC".

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01/28/2008 10:16 AM

A surface model should not cause you much heartburn, assuming you don't have a lot of open surfaces or flaws to fix. Once you've got a nice surface, it's usually easy to turn it into a solid (Of course, I say this from a SW perspective but I think Inventor does about the same).

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Re: Reverse Engineering, 3d scanning to create a Solid model

02/07/2008 8:56 AM

Send these guys an e-mail and they do this all the time using what ever data you have rather it is an old part, .pdf or in a tiff format.

http://2dtosolids.com/

On the web page click on the link and they will respond.

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Re: Reverse Engineering, 3d scanning to create a Solid model

01/28/2008 5:38 PM

Hi Jim,

We do exactly what you need. Our scanner is accurate to .001" and we can create a solid or surface model.


If you can send some pictures of the part we can give you a quote. Send to info@ems-usa.com. Visit our web site at www.ems-usa.com to see some sample scan projects.

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01/28/2008 8:27 PM

Hello Jim C.

We provide "reverse engineering" services and have been doing this specific work for 13 years. We use have a variety of equipment and processes that means we can perform this exact work for you.

Our website is loaded with examples and downloadable sample models to verify what you need so we can price accordingly. We also have an on-line quote request form that helps us get all the information we need for the quote.

See www.directdimensions.com and/or contact us directly at 410-998-0880.

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01/29/2008 1:54 AM

www.jmrsys.com Very nice people to work with, located in upstate Ny. Tell Jim Greene I sent you.

If you need to machine a prototype or pattern, possibly I can help.

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01/29/2008 8:55 AM

Lynn.hammargren@cox.net is able to help his web site is

http://2dtosolids.com/

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Re: Reverse Engineering, 3d scanning to create a Solid model

01/29/2008 9:21 AM

HandyScan 3D: http://www.handyscan3d.com/en/index.php

Call them up and find a company that has purchased one of these units in Philly.

I am in Ontario, Canada and called up a local machine shop that had one.

They charged me $1500CDN to scan the front fender, door, trunk, hood, front windshield and rear quarter panel. Gave me a scan file that imports directly into Solidworks and you can begin working on it.

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01/29/2008 4:59 PM

Since you have the drawingsand the casting, it'll be easier and faster to just follow the drawing and measure anything missing from the casting to create new model. 3D scan will only give you a dumb solid without any feature. Like when you import a STEP, IGS file into Inventor. You'll end up redrawing it anyway.

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01/30/2008 5:12 AM

I don't have good drawings of the casting or the finished product, I want a dumb solid for the casting, then I can make a casting drawing & will add the features to make a good finished drawing. I just need to get a scan of the casting. I want to know what kind of results you get from a scanned part.

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02/21/2008 12:06 PM

There are a variety of 3D Scanners on the market today, with varying degree's of performance and resolution. Most 3D scanning services will also convert to CAD in the form of either STEP, IGES or ACIS for import into whatever destination CAD system.

The problem inherent with 3D scanning is the time it takes to perform the scan and the accuracy for which the resultant point cloud is resolved into a 3D model - which directly translates to cost.

geoMagic (Raindrop) Studio has the fastest and most accurate software for DSSP, hands down - and can generate your mold accurately regardless of of prismatic shapes or contour surfaces, or a combination. If you can get a point cloud, this would be the software of choice to use for conversion to a solid.

If importing into Inventor R11 or higher - go to Autodesk Labs and download the Feature Recognition plugin for Inventor from the utilities menu (it is free). On import of 'dumb' solid model data, it will analyze and convert as many features possible unconstrained Inventor parametric objects - which are editable.

Pretty nifty stuff.

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Re: Reverse Engineering, 3d scanning to create a Solid model

03/18/2008 12:52 AM

I once saw Z-corp (www.zcorp.com) demo their 3D printers, and they had a 3D scanner also. They are positioning themselves as being much cheaper than the conventional players in the 3D market.

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07/13/2011 12:39 AM

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