Autism Causes?

I have full ASD cures in my ASD/Congenital Lyme group of 400 families. We have letters from their phychiatrists and their Doctors. Most of the kids are grade school age. First words from them are various and the stories will rip your heart out, both the tales of years of frustration and how the parents repond to their childs first words, sometimes heard in song. We have been doing this for over a year now, Doctors themselves are in the group curing their own Chronic Borreliosis and some are finally seeing progress in the ASD of their own kids and grandkids. Autism is completely reversible and Congenital Lyme, Chronic Lyme and Late Stage Lyme are completely curable.

The families are on every continent except Antartica, every race, creed and color, every age down to 18 months. The generic meds and nutritional support cost less than $250 per person. Standard testing applies and is used to verify Lyme in undiagnosed kids after their Immune System is re-booted so than can make antibodies again. Some of the kids were so deficient in immune support micro-nutrients that their vaccines were still in circulation 2 years after their big 2nd year vaccine.

Four families were even third generation congenital Lyme and the Grandparents have recovered too.

Turned out it isn't the vaccines, it's the food that has been altered to be sweet and seedless which removed micro-nutrients that are the only source of the only internal antioxidant that B-Cells, Neutrophils and other forms of white blood cells need to protect themselves from self-destruction when they create the ROS they use to kill bacteria, viruses, molds, cancer cells and process the vaccines.

I have full ASD cures

Do tell more, I am intrigued.

Interesting, I had a guy on fakebook who was saying the same thing. Lost track of him last year.

...in the way of vaccines, there is a new book out. It tracks the very first cases of Autism diagnosis and shows how there had never been a diagnosis of Autism before the early 30's. Then in europe and the U.S., children started having issues... It was given a name in europe - Aspergers and the rest is history.

What changed in thw early 30's? The diphtheria vaccine was introduced, it had Aluminum in it, as an adjuvant. (First time it had veen used)

Sounds cut and dry.

I have been learning that the effects can be reversed as well. It would be a straight fruitarian diet and that (supposedly) reverses all of the damage done. As for generations of this...I am interested to learn more. My sons mom mentioned something about this, earlier this year.

What many children apeared to 'lack' in one area they made up for elsewhere.

Its known as savant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savant

Turns out there is a specific cause and it is the fact that micro-nutrients are completely missing from nearly all processed foods, all of Monsanto's patented foods and feeds, and all soy formulas and jarred baby foods. They have a HUGE propaganda machine, including false research papers written in Nigeria, research that hints that the immune system itself causes the damage and so should be turned off, and a public propaganda machine touting the dangers of un-altered natural foods.

We found the kids can recover speech in as little as 3 weeks of nutritional support using un-altered foods and herbal supplements containing the entire immune system of plants that our immune system incorporates directly, but they cannot recover fully until their bodies are rid of the systemic pathogens that are causing low grade nflammation in their spinal cords and brains, restoration of glandular function and restoration of the many sub-systems of the Immune and Cellular Systems like the Respiratory Immune system, Mucosal immune system, Peridontal Immune system and bladder immune system, as well as the LPO and MPO systems.

We have tracked back the science to the 1940's to Bayer's research to find cures for Trench Mouth, Typhus, Malaria, and Syphilus that they were directly involved in by request of the German Army to help prevent these diseases in the trenches that killed twice as many soldiers as did the bullets and bombs of both WWI and WWII. Starvation experiments they performed on prisoners to determine minimum dietary requirements for Field Rations gave them the knowledge to reverse engineer micro-deficiencies in their patented foods in order to create income as well as using it for population control on every continent on the Planet.

We have the deleted gene numbers, patents to remove the micro-nutrients, names of all the Boards of Directors who ordered the research and the names of the researchers and their work that made it all possible. Autism in vaccine damaged kids is a 'designer disease', related to genes in only the smallest part of the ASD population and completely reversible. Missing are the red circled micro-nutrients in this chart of Essential Amino Acid Metabolisms.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/259514245_Amygdalin_content_of_seeds_kernels_and_food_products_commercially-available_in_the_UK

All due respect, I note that you have a good record on CR4, but please explain to me in simple terms how you have a full cure for ASD. It runs contrary to everything I know.

You have clearly looked at the topic extensively. Just so you know, I do not believe in any 'cure', though I am open to all ideas. Without links, or ref to extensive tech papers, what do you mean ? If you know something, I would appreciate a concise summary. Thank you in anticipation. It may well be that I have misunderstood your meaning.

Please tell me clearly - do you claim a full cure for ASD, yes or no.

I am skeptical if the answer is 'yes', but am willing to listen. Keep the reply simple for me.

Regards.

We have letters from their Doctors showing zero Congenital Lyme, Bartonella and Babesia after the protocol.

We have letters from their phychiatrists showing zero ASD where they were up to 74 and the assessment was that, in the case of for instance a 9 year old boy, he is now completely rid of all ASD symptoms but has the education and social skills of a child of 4 but with summer school and some tutoring he will be caught up by 6th grade.

Not sure how that didn't work as an answer about having a full cure...

I have been on CR-4 for years now and love the back and forth debates including personal attacks, lol.

I would say this, quoting an old Chinese proverb:

Brother here is the thing....

There is Autism and then there is Autism Spectrum Disorders. One is true Autism and the other is something that shares the same sorts of symptoms but is....from elsewhere.

When Jr was diagnosed, we dove into things that many have laughed at and said wouldn't work. Crazy supplementation regimens with anti fungal, biotics and virals.., as well as, mineral replacements and probiotics and a whole slew of others.

Jr talks up a storm now, where as before he didn't speak - he started talking before a year old and then after that series of shots stopped. Many kids have been brought back from their diagnosis. Many - not all. I have many friends who have kids that were "normal" before and now are incapable of speech, no matter what they do to try and help.

Things have changed a great deal in the last few years. I haven't been able to keep up with everything because of work and other things but...biomedical is a valid way of bringing kids and people out of the diagnosis.

There have actually been many Drs here in the states who have been using something that has reversed the effects of Autism and others with a compound the CDC has labeled as illegal. Many of them have ended up dead. Kind of like how it is illegal to bring vitamin B17 into the US...why? Dunno, but it is supposed to work wonders on a GREAT many things that pharma wants to continue using poisons on/with.

Peace up you rascally squirrel!

Ferris

Lol - you know me too well. I have total respect for you and Rider, but I love to stir the pot when I read something contentious. Just my rather blunt when of stimulating responce and debate.

"There is Autism and then there is Autism Spectrum Disorders". Ain't that the truth. Money is to be made in labels. I kinda like Semantic Pragmatic Disorder, it's much like my own son (and also has Royal connotations, The Lost Prince)). Numerous occassions I have listened to people (usually moms) in queues having passing chat, and seeming to want to outdo each other about their kids condition. It's one way to vent, so not too bad a thing.

I don't buy any sort of 'cure' notion. As said, I respect Grandin, but countless people clutch (forgive the pun) the notion of hugging therapy.

Life is simply not so kind as to give us a solution to everything. That is not to say we do not look for solutions and cures, just that meantime we handle the cards life deals us.

I respect all views, though I can be a tad blunt at times . No offence intended to anyone.

ps.........

Here is what happened...in 2010 I was bitten by a tick and got the worst case of Lyme you can imagine. Doctor says: "Don't know what you have but it's really, really bad!" Gives me Cipro, knocks out most of the Lyme but it comes back with a vengence along with shredded tendons My ex-wife, mis-diagnosed with Lyme for 6 years, tells me about the antibiotic cocktail her Doctor in Missouri cured her with. I decide from extensive reading that the combination of Minocycline along with Tinidazole taken every other day for 60 days, 1 dose of each an hour apart, sized at 1/2 mg. per pound of body weight. Both penetrate the CSF in the same concentration as the rest of the body, both have an affinity for Borrelia. Combined they kill all forms of Borrelia.

Well within modern CDC guidelines for Lyme, this still works. I have helped hundreds of people get their Doctors to prescribe this since 2011 and it works every time if you do the whole protocol which includes 2 weeks of nutritional support to reverse the always present Thiocyanate Deficiency that shuts down the Neutrophils, B-Cells and T-Cells. (protocol is in letter form here: https://www.facebook.com/notes/will-wiegman/wiegman-pulsed-protocol-for-lyme-disease-including-congenital-lyme-and-vaccine-i/10154253003723139/

A year ago last Thanksgiving (Nov. 2015) a family called me via messenger phone to thank me for my suggestion that Tinidazole and Minocycline would kill Spirochetes in the CSF. Their ASD son had almost died twice but was now out of trouble but still had Congenital Lyme. She asked if I thought Lyme and the vaccines could have caused the ASD symptoms and if my whole protocol could be adapted to her 9 year old son, which it easily could since both are prescribed per weight. The ratio being 1/2 mg. per pound, every other day for 60 days. She took the letter to her Doctor who was able to prescribe it for her son since the CDC had changed it's time restrictions on Lyme abx treatments.

On day 48 her son started talking again and by Valentines Day 2016 she started a group of 400 ASD/Congenital Lyme families in 28 countries, on every continent except Antarctia. A half dozen Doctors themselves are in the group to cure themselves and all members' Physician are allowed into the group to monitor and learn if they drop their title from their name. They were all given access to the protocol in English and were able to get their family Doctors, familiar for years with their ASD children, to prescribe the medications. Support products were all available from amazon so consistancy was easily achieved except in Australia, New Zealand and parts of Europe where restrictions on Tinidazole, an over-the-counter drug in many tropical countries, was banned or restricted. Minocycline has been given to teenagers for acne for years and both are available in generic forms.

In the first Phase of amygdalin supplementation to build Thiocyanate levels in the White Blood Cells (along with two products containing the immune systems of trees, Wild Cherry Bark Extract or Pinella) resulted in an identical rejuvination of the kids' Immune Sub-systems in this order:

1. Day 4...runny nose as the Mucosal Immune System in the surface of the Sinuses started to clear allergens...last 1-3 days.

2. Day 7...slight cough and clearing of the lungs and esophagus as the Respiratory Immune Sytem began to work again...lasts 1 1/2 days.

3. Day 9...eye rubbing as the Occular Immune System started to function properly again...lasts 1-2 days.

4. Day 12...Urinary tract irritation and rubbing as the Bladder Immune System on the inside surface of the bladder and urethrea started to work again.

5. Day 14...inflammation around the mouth and cheeks and baby teeth finally releasing as the Dental Immune System started functioning and the re-booted Neutrophils were once again able to cut the ligaments holding the late dropping baby teeth in.

6. Dose 2 of the Mino/Tindy Phase 2 results in a noticeable Herxeimer Reaction on Day 5 from the Minocycline killing a large number of normally dividing Spirochetes. An extra 'day off' is allowed here for people more sensitive to the Herx reaction.

7. Dose 7 of the Mino/Tindy Phase 2 results in a large Herxeimer Reaction to the Tinidazole breaking into the biofilm colonies throughout the body. An extra day off here too.

8. Day 54 of the Mino/Tindy Phase 2 results in the Serum/CSF concentration of the Minocycline to reach it's killing concentration in the blood stream and start to kill the Bartonella. This results in another noticeable Herxeimer Reaction, especially in people with an Iron sensitivity. Pomegranate juice, 100% and a natural chelator of iron, was introduced in the diet of the people sensitive to high iron.

Around week 7 the kids are able to focus their central vision again as the inflammation in their Superior Cervical Ganglia and their Adenoids resides enough for their Fight or Flight response to go back to normal status. The kids first response is to run to their parents, pull their faces together and stare into their eyes while laughing.

It is now that they start talking too since it is that same inflammation in the Superior Cervical Ganglion, that also is the nerve hub that controls the entire physical speech apparatus, clears enough to allow them to talk and sing, some for the first time.

From February 14, 2016 to February 14, 2017 I have spent over 3500 hours answering questions for the 400 families and their Doctors on every metabolic aspect of how clearing the Lyme allows the Immune and Cellular Repair Systems to clear all the inflammation out of the spine, glial apparatus of the brain, the CSF, all the glands and organs so that the kids are able to recover slowly as all the dead systemic bacteria are cleared and the WBCs are able to go back to maintenance, growth and repair mode. (Th1 & TH2 are allowed to go back to normal mode from immune responce mode).

There is more....lot's more, but that is where we are now...recovery varies from child to child but they are in 28 different countries with potentially any of the 29 different strains of B. burgdorferi as well as the other 21 different strains of Borrelia that exist world wide.

Clearing of vector borne Borrelia and Congenitally acquired Borrelia is above 95%, in 3rd generation Congenital Lyme, too.

Babesia responds fully to the TriBiotics.

Bartonella in Congenital Lyme kids who were infected before they were 10 weeks old is the hardest to get rid of since it is in their bone marrow and affects the RBC Progenitor cells there. The Standard CDC treatment of Mino/Rifampin can be given with complete confidence after the Borrelia are all gone since the kidneys are cleared and able to produce Vitamin D3 again and neural inflammation is reduced.

More info soon...each organ, gland, and system was affected in specific ways by the Lyme combo of Babesia, Bartonella and Borrelia and I will explain how each system was returned to normal as the systemic infections were cleared.

I was asked to only monitor and answer questions about how each system related to visible symptoms and metabolic inbalance and that amounted to about 25,000 questions in a running dialogue of all 400 families that included about 250,000 individual posts. It may be impossible to get this much info together again, ever...

Paragraph 2 - You missed a couple of words on the link to your notes, "Vaccine Induced Autism in Congenital Lyme Kids".

Well, first, don't get into a panic, which I don't think you are. Take a breath and be concerned, but these things take time.

Kris has some very excellent advice and thoughts on the subject. However, be careful with free advice, particularly from people and groups that are not well versed in the field you seek answers to. All of us mean well and extend our heart filled best wishes, but may unintentionally not give the best advice.

If I were in your shoes I would call a few of my friends that are doctors and ask where they recommend I turn for more information. From there you can expand your search for answers. Chances are you will find even more questions you did not think to ask.

Good luck and I think you will do very well. You are already asking questions and that is the first step toward enlightenment.

I too have a son with autistic spectrum disorder (ASD) so this is of great interest and I sympathise with you. As others have said the cause is not the important issue, although I think it is unlikely that vaccines or diet are involved. I can see some autistic tendencies in both myself and my wife (not uncommon in academics or engineers for that matter!) so I suspect genetics has a large part in it.

As one consultant said to us, the label autism can be unhelpful, it is not a diagnosis, but a description of a range of problems. They prefer the term autistic spectrum disorder (ASD)as there is a whole spectrum of problem areas and many children only have difficulty in some areas but not others. These may include speech, social skills, fine or coarse motor skills, repetitive behaviour or speech patterns. For example my son was a late talker but when he started his vocabulary was very advanced but had problems in other areas.

There is no cure as such, but treatment focuses on each area of difficulty, for example speech therapy, occupational therapy to help with motor skill problems, socialising etc. Most will go on to live fulfilled lives. I would echo Del's comment that often those with ASD are very strong in other areas and I think you will a good many engineers and academics have some ASD tendencies.

Looking for causes is looking backward. I am probably bi polar, but would I trade the obsession and insane focus and occasional clarity for a nice safe life. My family would, but I don't think I would. Open up the opportunities and see where they take your child.I think I speak for everyone here when I say, you carry not just our sympathy, but our hopes. All life is a spectrum and the exciting bits are on the edges.

Simon

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,152110,00.html

I agree avoid the blame game. The counter to this story is that thimerosal has been replaced by something else which gives exactly the same symptoms. This I find unlikely.

BTW this link came from here: http://www.junkscience.com/By_the_junkman.html

oops wrong link, should have been http://www.junkscience.com/ByTheJunkman/20080110.html

I personally had a slight case of autism, and the only problems I had were a slight speech impediment, and some ear troubles--I don't know if the ear troubles were related. My parents put me with speech instructors that were at my primary school for K-2 grade and the various teachers would work with me for an hour or so every day. I now have little trouble with my speech, I'm on the dean's list at RIT, and have participated in various sports achieving championships in two: XC and wrestling, I have no trouble in making new friends and so on. So if you are searching for the possibility of having that child that turns out like everyone else's child, you have a chance at that, however if you wish to experience what a growing number of parents and communities are beginning to experience, you also have the possibility of that. In either case you shouldn't worry, and just prepare yourself, as any parent would, for the various obstacles in teaching your children and helping them grow.

As for the cause, it is probably a mixture of the two. The vaccines probably tempered with some genes at the right time in the right person and now it has become a part of our communal gene pool.

biggjoshie,

The early difficulties you experienced don't sound like Autism. Autism is regarded by most as a 'hard-wired' condition, with no known 'cure'. Nobody ever "had a slight case of autism", any more than they had a slight case of Dyslexia. Individuals generally have difficulty understanding social interaction. Physical conditions such as epilepsy are sometimes found in those with Autism, as are gastro problems. That's a huge simplification, but you can read more at sites such as this. I didn't understand your meaning in the sentence....

So if you are searching for the possibility of having that child that turns out like everyone else's child, you have a chance at that, however if you wish to experience what a growing number of parents and communities are beginning to experience, you also have the possibility of that

.....could you elaborate ? All children are different, but those with autism are unable to comprehend the world around them the same way that others do. Various interventions can help improve the situation for some, but there is no cure as such. It's not like, for instance, social phobia that can be overcome with cognitive therapy etc. However, adaptive strategies can help those with autism lead fulfilled lives.

I don't mean to sound terse, but you seem to be talking about something different.

I have to take issue with some of the points in Kris's posting. Whilst it is true that autism has no cure, most people with ASD can learn coping strategies that enable them function normally. Since the autism label only really applies to to those at the severe end of the ASD spectrum, one could legitimately (if slightly loosely) use the term "slight autism" to describe those at the less severe end of the the spectrum.

I agree with those who are saying that worrying about the cause is irrelevant, what matters is how you move on from where you are.

Hi Chankley,

It was the part where biggjoshie said "...had a slight case of autism" that led me to think something other that autism was being described. I emphasized the word 'had', because the condition doesn't disappear like a cold.

As I said in the previous, "Various interventions can help improve the situation for some".

I dislike over-use of labels, but I don't agree that 'autism' is only a relevant descriptor for those with 'severe ASD'. However, I think we agree that phrases and labels are subject to interpretation, and how people address their individual situations is more important.

"how people address their individual situations is more important."

I completely agree. I address my current situation of no longer having the social "disabilities"/differences of someone who has autism, though mine was slight, and I'm not going to argue the "slight" part, because depending on where you look, you will find different deffinitions and relativism arguments for autism. MY doctor told my parents I had it when I was younger and that I should take various chemicals and it "should" "make me all better." They didn't... Back to the matter that you don't like: the "had": Does someone that no longer coughs, still have the cough since the virus is stored in their immune system? Does someone that had chickenpox still have chicken pox since it is stored in their system? To me if you no longer have the symptoms that describe the condition/disease/cold/etc, you no longer have it. I no longer have the symptoms that led my doctor to believe I had slight/minor autism. Therefore I "had" "slight" autism.

That's cool. All the labels/word usage can sometimes be more of a hinderance than a help. I'm really glad that you found a way of overcoming the difficulties you had as a youngster. It's great that your parents had the wisdom to follow their instincts and not let some doctor leave you dosed up on meds. A lot of doctors seem to use that as an easy solution.

Look beyond the typical "medical" profession, they only know what they've been taught, nothing more. Try a naturopath. Do lot's of research. Search the internet for "mercury poisoning" and chelation. Mercury is very toxic to humans and they use it as a preservative in those shots. Thimerosal contains mercury. Autism was never heard of until after mass vaccinations of our children........some countries have already banned amalgam fillings, they contain mercury too. I had all mine removed.

True, "the medical profession only know what they've been taught" but it has some link with research and slowly adapts as new information comes to light, whereas Naturopaths (and their ilk) can just make anything they want up. ffeJ

I agree with Guest

A naturopath saved my life. I had debilitating Arthritis and could barely get out of bed. All the medical doctors could do was fill me with drugs. My naturopath put me on all natural remedies and monitoring my food intake. It's going on eight years that I have been pain free and able to work. May be ilk but it works for me. Research by naturopaths is very well documented. You are what you eat!!

God bless you and yours. God only gives special needs children to special people.

Diet is hugely important to all people, and it's especially important to consider it in relation to child development and behaviour; In particular, food-stuffs that cause hyperactivity (aka ADD, HADD etc) since these can make diagnosis difficult. Autistic children can appear hyperactive just as much as they can appear introverted. A lot of doctors will reach straight for a prescription pad and write Ritalin or similar. People are susceptible to the notion that a pill is a solution.

I don't agree with, but also don't criticize, your up-beat notion that "God only gives special needs children to special people". Any philosophy that gives one a positive attitude is useful, so long as it does not preclude rational medical and educational methods of dealing with life.

Dear Guest

I want to re-open this discussion .We know that ethyl mercury is necessary for the

preservation of important vaccines .I am M.Sc. in Organic Chemistry .I want to find

a solution.I think if we use sterilised equal molar solution of Sodium sulfide alongwith

the vaccine and give some time to reaction between mercury and sulfide then we can

reduce the toxicity of the mercury .Because in this case mercury have already found

a sulfur atom and no need to combine with sulfhydryl group of proteins/hormones/enzymes .I think EDTA soultion may be used in place of sodium sulfide .

Ashraf

There are all too many people who want to blame something people do as being the cause of such conditions. But then to avoid those things often opens more dangerous risks, in this case real diseases that can do real harm. No parent wants to think that it is their genetic fault that makes their children autistic or to have any other condition.

Autism is one condition that we have no real idea of why it occurs and it is a waste of time to try to blame anything until someone can find and prove a cause conclusively. It is more likely to be genetic or a result of environmental factors before birth. Pregnant women eat foods cooked or packaged in aluminum. There are traces of mercury and all kinds of metals in our foods and diet. Our air and water have hundreds of chemicals which are not good for us, mostly in amounts too small to matter. If you listen to some there is practically nothing that that they think is fit to eat or drink and doing as they want would cause mass starvation.

God bless you and your son and may he be healed in the name of Jesus. Amen

Thank You One And All for your input, I (well, mostly Mrs. Ferris) have been looking on line for things about thimerosal and aluminum. One place that we found, quite unexpectantly was YouTube, there was a lot of info about Autism there in vids made by parents with autistic kids. As a complete diagnosis has not been done, we are not sure if our little man is affected or not. The test will take place on April 7th.

It is crazy, if you look up autism one thing that comes up a lot is that children born to parents that are into engineering or any other type of analytical profession(s) are more prone to be touched with autism than not. Strange.

Yes, diet is a big thing to look into. And is something that we have been delving into, honestly some of the food doesn't taste all that great.

Kris, the "slight" was a mistake on my behalf, autism is autism. Let me rephrase what I said - he could have autism, just not to the point of debilitation. The "classic symptoms" that I have been told do not apply to my son - he has no problem making eye contact, no problem with being touched/showing affection. The "professional" that put this thought into our heads was a speech therapist that watched how he was putting cars into a row;as well as, stacking blocks up on top of each other and made a comment about the possibility. When looking up causes and effects on Google, we came across reports/articles describing individuals that had been diagnosed with autism but had NO outward signs that would be obvious in adult life.

Again, THANK YOU ALL for your posts!

Richard, Richie & Gio

Hi Ferris,

It's quit common for professionals who have contact with children to point out things that don't fit the norm. Children develop rapidly, and it's part of the professionals job to help initiate further investigation where appropriate. People such as speech therapists often have contact with pre-school and infant classes, and are often amongst the first to notice anything out of the ordinary. Whatever route is taken, parents will probably find themselves talking to a specialist who will try to assess what (if any) condition exists. With autism a large part of this is observation, but they will also consider other possibilities. It's quite possible they will test for genetic conditions such as 'fragile x', which can sound quite alarming, but it's a necessary step in diagnosis by excluding possibilities. In other words don't be too worried by possibilities that are mentioned.

In my opinion lining up cars/stacking bricks is not in itself an indicator of autism. Doing so for long periods, and ignoring anything else might be. I say 'might' because it's difficult to describe in a definitive way. To the autistic child playing with the cars/bricks, the outside world appears not to exist. You may see specific movements being repeated. Body movement such a swaying rhythmically and repetitive humming are common. There are a lot of individual signs that may or may not be present, and that's where an experienced professional can be very helpful in observation. Parents get used to the gradually evolving behaviour of their child, and it's more difficult to stand back and take an objective look at things.

There are various reasons why autism may seem more prevalent where parents are engineering types. It could be that they are more likely to seek out specialists when they have concerns. They may be more affluent, and therefor more able to find help. Autistic people may be drawn to each other and pass on genes for autism (if they exist) to their children - check out reports on Silicon Valley/Autism. On a more sinister level, Schools in the UK have found a huge rise in reported dyslexia - it's thought by many ( based on statistics) that this is down to affluent parents seeking academic advantage for their children (!). Like any other topic, the internet contains an awful lot of garbage on autism. Where there are people in need, there are people selling snake oil, and the usual outright weird folk.

Somewhere in all that I meant to say about eye contact. It's often a feature of autism, but like other aspects it's not in itself diagnostic. It might help if you have a local parent support group or special needs school you can visit. There are so many variations in what is called autism, that seeing/meeting people first hand is the best way to learn more.

Hope everything progresses well for you all on the 7th. I wouldn't regard it as a test, just an assessment to help assemble the facts and choose the way ahead.

Thanks Kris, we are not going to dwell on the idea anymore... I look at it like it is in bigger hands than mine, as does my wife. I do not believe that he is actually going to be found autistic (I do not think I am in denial... but that would be denying it, huh? ). But you know what? If so, then we shall do what it takes (hard work, therapy, change of diet - chelation or whatever) to overcome. Feris jr. is up to the fight as are me and his mom. I'll keep you all posted in one form or another...

Cheers

Excellent philosophy Ferris, there's no point going into overdrive about possibilities. A calm approach is always best. Let us know if there are any more facts that you want to canvass opinion/knowledge on. I'm sure this thread will be useful to others who find themself in a similar position.

Of course I will let you all know what is going on with Ferris jr (he is a big 3 yrs old today - 03 01). We have a special education teacher in the family (she deals with kids heavily affected by autism) and she said that she saw no sign of autistic behavior in him today at his birthday party. Again; though, we will need to wait to see what the future has in store for us and our lil' man.

Thanks again guys!

OK. So Ferris jr had his developmental evaluation this past week and the psych has diagnosed him with PDD, or Pervasive Developmental Disorder. This is something that falls into (or under) the umbrella of ASD, Autism Spectrum Disorder. He does not have autism per se, just it falls into the ASD categories. Intervention is the order of the the day, week, month, year whatever the time frame is that we are dealing with here. He is capable of reading his first book (he is 3 yrs old) talks (back and forth) in English and Spanish (when prodded though), counts into the 30's in eglish and the 20's in spanish, swims(!) the width of the pool here in the apartment (nope, it is not a doggie paddle either... almost looks like a cross between freestyle and the breast stroke. He's fast), can dive into the deep end and swim down to the 5' deep bottom and touch it by himself! The only thing that isn't there is the desire to openly communicate. He blurts things out, when he wants something, or when he thinks something is funny. Other than that he is silent. Speech therapy is on order. He is enrolled in therapy in the local school district (once a week) and through childrens hospital (also once a week)...

Whatever, I think that there is still something behind the causation of this infernal thing that is hurting our kids. Whether it is environmental or not, introduced (through shots, innoculations or what ever you want to call them) by man or not. Something is amiss. Look no farther than the fact that the world health organization introduced hcg into tetanus vaccinations given ONLY to women of childbearing ages in Africa, Mexico and in the Phillipines. After the initial shot they had to recieve "boosters" every couple o' months... What did this do? Well, when ths hcg was introduced to the females body, she developed antibodies towards it (the way that flu shots work) except that it did not react against tetanus. It reacted against the women getting pregnant. Any of the women that were given these shots and booster that got pregnant, were basically still able to concieve. They were not; however, able to carry the fetus past the first month or two because their bodies were reacting against the fetus, again like a flu shot (get rid of the invading "organism" kind of thing...)...

Check out flouride in the water and its real effects. Where the US government got the idea from. The additive flouride - the stuff that men add to the water supply that is supposed to give us strong teeth and bones. Add to this the flouride in the toothpaste that we use and you can get something called dental flourosis which actually crystallizes your teeth and causes them to decay and rot and blah, blah, blah... There have been studies (in New Zeland for instance) that have shown that kids that drink non-flouridated water had teeth that were a lil' bit healthier than those of the kids drinking the flouridated water...

Aluminum, which would normally be passed through the body when you sit down on the toilet, is more easily absorbed into the body when flouride is present. Aluminum in the body is a neuro toxin, isn't it?

Rant over...

Sorry. About the rant. Just that I have been finding little things here and there that just do not make since...and these are just a few of them. If the gov'ts are supposed to take care of us, then why is it that they are allowing this to be done to us?

There are a lot of 'positives' in that post, Ferris. Your approach will carry you all through. PM me if I can be of any help, the system in England is probably somewhat different to America, but when all is said and done we are caring parents. Best wishes & many thanks for sharing this with us.

Kris.

Thank You, for your backing there Kris... I sure have come to find that a great majority of the members here are really caring and willing to help. Right now, Ferris jr is on "vacation" from his therapy... The therapist through the hospital is on leave and will not be back until sometime in the beginning of August and the one at the public school, well, they are on summer vacation.

I guess we are going to be looking into moving to an area nearby that has a school that has a pre school and kinder and early grades set up to meet the needs of children that are autistic, or fall in to the ASD umbrella. It will probably about 4 miles away from where we currently live. Different school + different district & town = different rules. Since he would fit into the program that is being run at this, he would be accepted. The snag being that we do not live in the area and do not pay the "local taxes" there, so he can't attend. Thus the need to move.

Mrs. Ferris has been looking into the chelation (?) diet, where you cut out A WHOLE LOT of different foods that are supposed to be problematic towards kids with autism. Getting rid of bread made with wheat, milk and other things. Hey, if it is going to help, then I guess we are going to try it. We have read about heavy metal detoxes, both the foot soak and foot pad varities, only problem being that when it was done to a kid that was autistic, he regressed... That is something that a parent of an autistic kid just wouldn't want, AT ALL.

Again, I will keep you all informed. I work, mama stays home. So, I do not have near as much time to worry about what is going on as she does. I am going into this as open minded and "positive" as I possibly can... Any input, insight, whatever you want to call it is more than welcome here or in PM. From all of you out there.

Again, Thank You Kris,

Ferris, Ferris jr & Mrs. Ferris

You are very welcome Ferris.

I understand the school issue - the UK does not really have enough specialist schools, so we have what is referred to as a 'postcode lottery'; ie it's the luck of the draw, based upon where you live. Fortunately for us we have a superb local school that has a lot of expertise with autism. The Kris Jnr is about to move on to a higher college ( he's 16) that runs specialist courses in tandem with more mainstream stuff. Without the help of such a superb junior school it would have been hard to get him this far.

The dietary issue is interesting - I've read much comment on this from various sources. Although we've never tried any of it out, it does seem to have some credibility. Gluten is reckoned by many to have some connection with autism. I read one story of some parents who's child was literally chewing the carpet - it sounds bizarre, but he was addicted to the gluten used in the glue ! My own son opts for pasta any time there is a choice, and I think that contains gluten, so perhaps that lends weight to the theory. Also, I've met many cases where autistic children have digestive problems. Curious. I haven't yet encountered any good evidence for why such a link should exist, but it may well be worth exploring further.

One of the other 'oddities' that has always puzzleed me is the ratio of male to females with autism - almost the same as dislexia. 4:1. I doubt there will ever be any such thing as a 'cure' for ASD, but dietary intervention may be able to help. Well worth looking into. The best help is, of course, yourself and Mrs Ferris.

Much best wishes to you all,

Kris & Family.

I have heard of this, it seems that the males brain is more affected by the immunizations that are administered to infants/toddlers because the girls' body (for some reason) is more capable of cleaning out the aluminum and the mercury/themierosol and what ever else you might want to throw in there. I agree it is very hmmm, peculiar that 75% more males are affected by this issue than females. That is why I included what I did in my response earlier. I seriously wonder what it is that the powers that be are up to. (well as an aside... this could almost be in my 'conspiracy theory' forum... they, the powers that be, want to lower the population of the world...,.... again conspiracy theories abound in this thought...).

I look forward to learning more from you and others, Mrs Ferris is on an Autism mailer that has a lot of info for parents in it, it is called the Autism homepage and then there is MSN autism group page...

Gotta go have company and we are going to be cooking Carne Asade out by the pool...

Thanks again my Friend

Ferris

We are reducing autims symptoms in a group of 400 families using non-GM/GMO food sources to replenish a Severe Thiocyanate Deficiency in the kids that is shutting down the Neutrophils and the Respiratory Immune System and the Mucosal Immune System too.

The kids in the group are Congenital Lyme Induced Autism kids who went down within a couple of weeks of their 2nd year vaccines. We are not yet through the entire 17 week protocol to eliminate the Lyme and co-infections yet.

Wow that is great

So I started this thread many, many years ago.

It has definitely been an eye opening learning experience. It is a ride that is akin to a roller coaster.

We had Jr tested - the whole kit and kaboodle of tests, blood, poop and pee. We found a Dr who specialized in kids on the Spectrum and he has only seen him since. He was found to be allergic to Gluten - the main protein in wheat and Casein - the main protein in milk. Eggs were on there and a few other things to boot.

He was put on an antifungal for several rounds and an antibacterial and after all of this was finished he had a few bouts of Valtrex, or an anti viral (he had been exposed to epstein - barr virus or mono)

He is a champ and learned to take all sorts of pills, from probiotics for his gut flora to zinc for his stimming and on and on.

He started talking before his first birthday and then after his series of shots, he went silent.

Now? He is non stop sometimes. His communications are still jumbled and there is a big gap in ability to understand him for people who try to talk with him. He still spins on occasion..his way of dealing with stuff (whether it is good or bad). He has turned into quite an artist. If I could figure out how to load a pic here I would show off his skills.

He has come a long way but still has far to go. His diagnosis was originally Pervasive Developmental Disorder. It has since been changed to straight Autism.

Teach your kids to love and respect others, please. That is something that I know - kids...people that are on the spectrum or easy targets for bullies, hell easy targets for being taken advantage of. I have learned a lot in the last 8 years but this something that I can not do for anyone other than my kids.

Pass it on.

Ferris

It sounds like Jr is coming along great ! Very often parents/family of autistic people don't get any acknowledgement for all the daily work. It becomes second nature, but it's still nice if once in a while people notice how much devotion it takes. Hat's off to you and family.

If you have time, check out Stephen Wiltshire. He has an astonishing ability to recall images, and on documentaries I've seen he comes across as a really nice guy. The latter point is what I like.

I'm no expert, but I think Epstein Barr is fairly common. I should stop being lazy and have a quick check, but the main point is that if Jr has any illnesses it's important that medical folk know what meds he's on - interaction and all that. I know I'm talking to somebody who's well clued up, but you never know who might scope by our chats here. No harm in what Basil Fawlty would call 'statin the bleedin obvious' !

That virus is the same as the mononeucliosis (?) virus... I'll check out that guy.

Jr has an amazing memory...with movies and music and drawing. Sometimes he brings up the old "remember when you told me this?" thing and I am dumbfounded...

Ferris

Memory abilities can be amazing. Even apart from autistic people, I alwas fell it important to see that all have abilities. Dyslexic, Autistim, Physically disabled, all people have an area of skill.

Without the 4 circled plant compounds to act as trickle cargers to the Essential Amino Acid metabolisms the production of glutamate stalls. Gluten buildup results in sensitivity to it, it's not really an allergy.

The lunatics have finally taken over the asylum.

CR4/IHS is welcome to host crap. I'm done with participating in serious discussion here.

I have no interest in any reply from you or Admin. Your 'previous' has been pointed out before (by me). You have beeen banned from other sites for reasons you know well. If CR4 wishes to enable you , that's fine.

Goodbye to all.

Please don't leave.

Why offer grief to your friends, while giving an indifferent foe the satisfaction ?

You make some excellent points, though referring to the prolific Temple Grandin as an example is questionable in my opinion. She is only one person. Certainly a person to be held in high regard, but just one individual.

As you suggest, it's all too easy to get bogged down in looking for a 'magic bullet' solution. 'Been there, done that, got the t-shirt' is the usual Brit expression. My son is now 25 and gets along pretty good. The 'experts' told us he would never be able to speak or read etc, but he could now kick their ass in many areas.

Yes my friend...this is like jr. He will sit down and draw stuff in 3D. Kids his age are doing stick figures and circle heads...

He is in 6th grade now but has vocabulary of an 11th grader but it is his decoding skills that are hurting - understanding what is going on in the story and what not.

Check out Stephen Lawrence. He has an amzing talent that nobody can explain. Again, he's just an individual. but it does further the point that all people have a gift if we just look enough.

I believe that there are those who are born with it and then there are those who, for whatever reasons (vaccines induced or environmental reasons) fall under the broad strokes of what ASD is defined to be.

Temple Grandin was a child who couldn't be touched, made no progress like other kids of her age...the doctors said that she needed to be institutionalized but her mother fought it and through perseverance she became the person she is today...a phD an MA and on and on.

I saw a researcher speak many years ago....he came to a conclusion after much studying. It was that from the second trimester on, kids with Autism were found to have heads bigger then there peers and brains bigger then there peers. He talked at length about this but shrugged his shoulders about why all of a sudden these kids all fall under the shroud of ASD.

.....so many things that are known and available to see but most parents DO NOT WANT TO OPEN THEIR EYES. A simple viewing of the insert should be enough but most people aren't willing to do so...

In the case of Congenital Lyme kids with ASD, they were born normal but nearly totally Thiocyanate deficienct which prevented them from making antibodies or processing the vaccines or clearing the inflammation caused by the huge load of antibiotics which finally completely eliminated ALL thiocyanate in their bodies for their B-Cells, Neutrophils and other forms of white blood cells to use.

We have then talking on un-altered GM/GMO food supplements and amygdalin supplements like Novodalin. They can sing too, sometimes their first words are singing along with their favourite cartoon DVD theme song.

They have their personalities, great senses of humor, opinions and intellectual curiosity and social skills intact.

All that went away when inflammation in their spinal cords and brain stem, inflammation in the glial apparatus of the brain and Borrelia affected adenoids that added to their inability to turn of the Flight or Fight response which was also responsible for their avoidance of eye contact which turned out to be their peripheral vision going full operational from the Fight or Flight being stuck in the ON mode.

They were looking at you with their peripheral vision because their center vision was in the Deer in the Headlights mode.

There is more too, we have videos of the cured kids telling of their experience of being trapped inside their own bodies, in pain from the Lyme, frustrated by their inability to speak, hindered by their inability to turn short term memories into long term memories as well as the normal ability to assemble a full sentence before speaking it.

The 400 families volunteered along with their Doctors (after the CDC lifted the two week limit on Lyme treatment), their special ed teachers, and their psychiatrists.

A few of the families were third generation Congenital Lyme sufferers, all of which were able to get reliable positive tests for Lyme after three weeks of unaltered food allowed thiocyanate levels to rise and antibodies made again in sufficient numbers to show up on the blot tests.

Borrelia in the CSF causes inflammation in the Superior Cervical Ganglion blocking the physical fascial and breath control aspects of speech and disrupts the glial-astrocyte aspects of the sentence forming process by short term memory.

In my 2016 ASD/Congenital Lyme cure group of 400 families, 1000+ ASD kids and their personal Physicians in over 40 countries we cured 99.8% of them this way including their extended families:

https://m.facebook.com/notes/will-wiegman/wiegman-pulsed-protocol-for-lyme-including-congenital-lyme-and-coinfections/10156718881843139/?ref=bookmarks

Borrelia in the CSF causes inflammation in the Superior Cervical Ganglion blocking the physical fascial and breath control aspects of speech and disrupts the glial-astrocyte aspects of the sentence forming process by short term memory.

In my 2016 ASD/Congenital Lyme cure group of 400 families, 1000+ ASD kids and their personal Physicians in over 40 countries we cured 99.8% of them this way including their extended families:

https://m.facebook.com/notes/will-wiegman/wiegman-pulsed-protocol-for-lyme-including-congenital-lyme-and-coinfections/10156718881843139/?ref=bookmarks

You may find it interesting to look at recent (and very alarming) stats for such illness as MMR. These illnesses are seriously bad, and are happening in the generation who's idiot parents didn't get them vaccinated.

^{http://www.organic-systems.org/journal/92/JOS_Volume-9_Number-2_Nov_2014-Swanson-et-al.pdf}

https://m.facebook.com/notes/will-wiegman/cancer-gmo-gene-deletions-and-glyphosate/10157658272053139/?ref=bookmarks

https://www.epa.gov/ingredients-used-pesticide-products/draft-human-health-and-ecological-risk-assessments-glyphosate

Glyphosate© is a powerful Serine Protease Inhibitor.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20537709/

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http://www.organic-systems.org/journal/92/JOS_Volume-9_Number-2_Nov_2014-Swanson-et-al.pdf

https://www.epa.gov/ingredients-used-pesticide-products/draft-human-health-and-ecological-risk-assessments-glyphosate

We are not of a like mind, but I'm (now) fine with people posting what they think to be helpful. I can only but add that it's always best to research as best one can and make a personal decision. It's only taken me about 30 years to chill a bit on the topic (!) and accept we all have differing views.