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Replacing Fuse with CB

03/17/2008 2:43 AM

Can we replace a fuse with a circuit breaker of the same voltage and amperage values?

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Re: Replacing Fuse with CB

03/17/2008 4:14 AM

Fuse is a protective device that remains intact and allows circuit current through it untill the rated current is exceeded. Yes, fuses can be replaced with the circuit breker of the same current rating and operational voltage. However, in some cases of lower rating (especially fractional values of current), it may not be possible to find exactly the same current rating CB.

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Re: Replacing Fuse with CB

03/17/2008 4:54 AM

Quite.

For domestic applications in the UK:

  • Nominal "5A fuse wire" → 6A B-characteristic circuit breaker.
  • Nominal "15A fuse wire" → 16A B-characteristic circuit breaker.
  • Nominal "30A fuse wire" → 32A B-characteristic breaker

will suit most situations.

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Re: Replacing Fuse with CB

03/17/2008 7:11 AM

Yes You can and You should .

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Re: Replacing Fuse with CB

03/17/2008 7:49 AM

Hang on a tick. Doesn't this depend a bit on the asker's application?

Fuse / CB interchangeablity may not be true for, say, an individual electronic device. CB often take a comparatively long time to trip, yes? I would think that in many such applications a quick blowing fuse would be much more preferable to protect the electronics from cascading failure.

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03/17/2008 8:07 AM

yes exactly, thats why i put it on discussion table before to replace it, please discuss it from application point of view.

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Re: Replacing Fuse with CB

03/17/2008 10:55 AM

The question is simple but the answer is really difficult to answer. The replacement of fuse with CB depend on the basic purpose the fuse is provided in the circuit.

Though the basic function of fuse and circuit breakers are same (provide protection against over load , earth fault and short circuit ) but their operating I/T ( Current /Time) characteristics is different. So the I/T characteristics of both fuse and CB has to be verified before replacing fuse with CB . So before replacing must make through study of the down stream cable net work and load.

1. The fuse provide instantaneous protection against in rush current that can cause fire or accident. Fuse protects against short circuit and earth fault especially for the cable connection to the load.They are not meant for overload protection.

The use of rewireble fuse is unsafe and not recommended for use. So you have to use cartridge fuses which cannot be reused after the fault. It is costly still not recommended for replacement from circuit with CB .

2. Circuit breakers provide positive protection against overload and earth fault but there is a time lag in operation which can cause damage to costly equipments and can cause fire before the line get tripped because they are thermo magnetic release. The I/T characteristics vary with different circuit breaker designs depending on recommended uses. Some of them are designed with current limiting principles, hence enable fast clearance of short circuit faults.

3. In special application like protection for SCR, fuse protection combined with fast fault clearing circuit breaker is recommended to protect SCR from surge current.

Even in the general Distribution panels Back up fuse protection should not be eliminated though fuse consumes more energy loss and is more expensive. Some electrical panel manufacturers claim that their circuit breakers does not need fuse back up.( The actual reason is the panel will become more expensive to provide fuse back up ) Still it is matter of debate. For safety reasons I always recommend back up fuses for Distribution panels.

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03/17/2008 11:59 PM

1. Every fuse is designed and rated for a particular value of current, if the current drawn through the circuit is more than the fuse rating, the fuse will blow thus protecting the equipment in question. The provides for protection from overload as well.

2. Yes, rewirable fuses are obsolete now, instead one can go for HRC fuses for comaratively higher current ratings and glass cartridges for the smaller ones like those in electronic circuits.

3. Circuits breakers with Microprocessor Control are available for fastest possible isolation of the faulty circuit, however main function of current limiting feature is to completely avoid the possibility of contact welding.

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Re: Replacing Fuse with CB

03/18/2008 12:12 AM

Manirul,

There are many more types and sizes of fuses than there are circuit breakers. This is because fuses can be manufactured to perform more specific protection tasks. The general ways to sort fuses and circuit breakers would include: circuit voltage, interrupting capacity (short circuit clearing capacity), current rating, time-current curve, speed of action, physical size, cost, and others.

For general use circuits (offices, residences, and similar) using a circuit breaker is probably better because of the ease of resetting after an overload and the greatly reduced risk of being over-sized. However, for many other types of loads and circuits, the fuse will be the better choice. Others have already noted that you have many more (and closer together) sizes of fuses. They will give better coordination between branch circuit, load center, and mains---so only the one closest to the fault opens. When I was first learning the trade, I thought fuses were old fashioned. After 30+ years, I frequently will find fuses to be the better choice for a particular application.

Good question--JMM

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03/18/2008 2:57 AM

That's correct, in some application fuse is better choice over CB rather comparing MCB, at the same time cost effective. Say, for VT primary connection its new trend to use MCB than fuse though costly, but easy to reset and mounting doesn't consume much space in panel.

With Present development of inbuilt microprocessor based relay in CB the operating time has become tremendously low which is very much comparable to fuse. Hence the practice is not to used FUSE as back-up of CB. Isolating a faulty circuit in 1.5 cycle is quite less time than the sckt fault withstand time duration of circuit. I have never seen fuse used as a back-up. May be some old installation retained the upstream fuse while doing modification & revamping.

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03/18/2008 3:15 AM

Fuses are an inexact science- read the specs of time & fast- but they save equipment in the case of a vast overload. I would say that c/bs would be more responsive to transients-as in elcb for eg.

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Re: Replacing Fuse with CB

03/27/2008 10:26 AM

One problem is that a circuit breaker would not fit into the fuse base position, and even when replacing fuse with another fuse, you need to match rating and size so you don't have clearance issues which could result in sparking or fire hazards. Also check descrimination is ok. Good luck.

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Re: Replacing Fuse with CB

03/27/2008 11:44 PM

A much bigger problem going on here is that the question is far too vague to get a good answer. Say for instance we are speaking of a fuse on a large AC motor installation where the available line fault current capacity is 200,000A. No circuit breaker is capable of interrupting a fault that big, but there are many many fuses that are. On the other side, if the current is 2ma, no circuit breaker goes that low (reliably). You just cannot make blanket statements on such an open ended issue.

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