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Electronmagnetism

04/21/2008 3:40 AM

hiya there all!! is there in way possible to transmit 7 volts ac into the air using electromagnetic coupling??? moreover what us X10??

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Re: electronmagnetism

04/21/2008 6:03 AM

Hello,

Your question isn't quite clear. Can you explain a little more? And, what do you mean by "X10"?

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05/01/2008 1:21 PM

leave x10 aside.. i wish to transmit 7 to 8 volts to a distance of 1 metre.. to put it straight..the transmitter would be connected to an ac source..... the receiver and transmitter are not connected to each other through wire.

The reciever would recieve the power through electromagnetic coupling

(approximately equal to the power transmitted) while being 1 metre away from the source.... it very much relates to the MIT project named Witricity

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05/01/2008 8:35 PM

It's easy enough to transmit that much Voltage that kind of distance, and you can even transmit a fair amount of current (and thus power), but the transmitter and receiver start to get about the same size as the separation distance and the efficiency isn't very good.

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04/21/2008 10:43 PM

Would x10 be the probe multiplier on your oscilliscope?

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04/22/2008 2:27 AM

Thanks, palinurus! That's the best laugh I've had today.

I know one should be gentle with the naive and inexperienced, but doesn't anyone teach them to spell? or type?

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04/22/2008 12:34 AM

Did you mean to say "what IS X10?"

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04/22/2008 3:36 AM

I'm not an expert in this field but I suppose that you can. Of course it depends, first of all, on the distance (due to the attenuation of the manetic field). The more afar you want to "send" the voltage the more high must be the voltage that you apply on the primary coil of your "air transformer". It has, also, to do with the magnetic flux which pass through the "secondary" coil. A coil of large diameter will get more flux, giving more voltage as an output.

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04/22/2008 7:53 AM

... um yes, you can!.. It's called induction, and every transformer does it.

The big question would be.. how far?

There is a lot of current research into transmitting over a distance, but it's very impractical right now. a few inches?? you may be able to rig up, but beyond that... You better have a bigger R&D budget that 'this'.

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X-10 is a common Powerline signal transmission protocol, and has nothing to do do with power being transmitted by air. Rather, it has everything to do with sending signals over the power line for communication.

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04/22/2008 10:24 AM

great answer JE in CHicago

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04/22/2008 12:55 PM

X10 is a scheme where control signals are sent over the ac system at or near the zero crossing point of the wave. They make transmitters and recievers that turn lights and appliances on and off or dim them without the need to add more wires in existing structures. Their web site is x10pro.com. -- JHF

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04/22/2008 1:37 PM

since the patent for this technology expired long ago, there are many more companies that provide "X-10" products that are clearly labeled as X-10 compatable... It has many commercial uses as well. ... how do I know?

hey!... check out my thing on ebay!

What a coincidence!?

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I paid for out of town training in this stuff long ago at this great company in Indy? ACT? The best of these products..

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04/22/2008 4:59 PM

Is ACT still around? The only stuff I can find in Arkansas is X10Pro -- JHF

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04/23/2008 3:10 AM

Thanks! That was great info!!!

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