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Exhaust Duct for Laundry Dryers

04/23/2008 12:09 PM

Hope there are some HVAC experts out there who can help me out on this one.

Need an opinion,

What I have is 4 sets of dryers at capacity of 34kg (to be used on a ship), to which my supervisor was adament about individual exhaust due to bad experiences of joining the ducts together and resulting in "overheating" - a case of backflow of the hot air exhausted going into the other dryer in the event that not all four are running.

However I have continued to see designs of ducts joining up and I was wondering if there is any way to avoid that issue apart from individual exhaust as one penetration might have less impact on the strength of the deck (apart from other issues like spaces) than to have four penetrations (seperate exhaust to use natural vent). I was thinking along the lines of combining the ducts and the duct would then penetrate to the above deck, which will be fixed to a exhaust fan & mushroom ~ would there still possess this problem?

(But of course I'm not about to challenged my supervisor on this since he's insistant....but for personal learning interests)

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Re: Exhaust Duct for Laundry Dryers

04/23/2008 1:17 PM

2 choices:

1. If you are joining them, an exhaust fan must have more cfm then the total of all the dryers. This will create a negative pressure and prevent any backups,and aid in cooling.

2. When the ducts are joined, the total cross sectional area must be >= to the sum of the areas of the ducts before they are joined. Do not join two 4 inch ducts into one 4 inch duct it will create a back pressure if you are just blowing from the dryers. The individual exhausts will also require reed valves that close when the dryer is not in use.

i.e .52 feet X 4 outlets = 22 feet minimum for the combined duct.

Regardless of what is done, regular cleaning will be required.

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Re: Exhaust Duct for Laundry Dryers

04/23/2008 1:29 PM

Thanks. But can the combined duct size be reduced since a fan is put in place? or does that rule apply to when not considering the usage of a fan?

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04/23/2008 1:42 PM

Yes, the combined duct size can be reduced if the exhaust fan is at the end, and sucking the air out. If you are using just one duct size, the suction pressure will be highest at the exhaust fan, and every time you split the line in two, the suction pressure will be cut in half. You are saving in duct size, but adding in the cost of buying and operating a fan.

The rule of >= size is only for blowing into the ducts when there is no exhaust fan.

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04/23/2008 2:00 PM

well space is always a big issue on a ship.....good to know the possible alternatives when the need arises.

thanks alot!

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Re: Exhaust Duct for Laundry Dryers

04/24/2008 1:40 AM

Ship??

Well that can open other possibilities!

find some dry compressed air source which can be bled into the dryers instead of inlet air. e.g. engine room air. the damp clothes will then dry at room temperature as the water in the clothes evaporates into the expanding air stream. the positive pressure in the dryers will ensure the duct air does not re-enter and should allow a much smaller duct size as well.

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Re: Exhaust Duct for Laundry Dryers

04/23/2008 1:40 PM

Check valve where each one of the exhausts tie in to the main exhaust line to check the back flow from the other dryers or from the laundry room vent fan. A larger main exhaust line.

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Re: Exhaust Duct for Laundry Dryers

04/24/2008 4:42 PM

The reed valves should work as Techno said. However if you have powered dryers, a sure method to prevent back flow is to install motorized dampers, each interlocked to open when its respective dryer turns on and close (spring close) when it goes off.

This would cost a little more and require wiring of power to the actuators. A good idea would be to use the dryer's power and a step down transformer to low voltage (24 vac). Then you could use low voltage actuators and possibly plenum cable if the ship's specs allow it. If the specs do not allow for running plenum cable, you will have to run your cables in conduit, low voltage or not. If you are required to use conduit and your dryers are powered by 120 vac, you might as well use 120 vac actuators and save the cost and wiring labor of the transformers. It's just always good to use low voltage (24 vac) for safety reasons whenever possible.

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