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PCB Warpage in Wave Soldering Machines?

04/30/2008 5:49 AM

We are facing problem of warpage on paper phenolic pCb size 280 mm width on wave soldering machine . machine has finger type conveyor ,,due to warpage the wave overflows on the PCB causing damage .

To keep it minm. we tried various transport speeds and preheater settings but it is not under control .

if PCb material cannot be changed what are the suggestions for a typical finger type machine to avoid this overflow of the wave /

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Re: PCB Warpage in Wave Soldering Machines?

04/30/2008 11:30 PM

do you pre-heat the PCB's before the wave?

have you looked at alternative soldering technology for your product?

something like IR-reflow, Selective soldering.

Board warpage is a BAD thing to have, especially when you have chip caps on the PCB, these little buggers will give you no end of problems if they are not treated with respect.

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Re: PCB Warpage in Wave Soldering Machines?

05/01/2008 12:04 AM

Finger type machines are fun!!

First,is the conveyor width correct? (Remember that the boards will expand as they are heated.) If the conveyor is too narrow, the boards will be caused to flex by the additional compression.

Second, What is the material thickness? Thinner materials are more likely to sag and if you're doing the soldering profile correctly, the material will become softer as it gets hot and thus also more likely to sag. You probably cannot influence the designed board thickness, but consider this for future designs.

Third, How much weight of parts do you have on the board? Additional weigh will assist board sag.

Now the answers.

Cheapest and easiest is to use board stiffeners on the leading and trailing edges of the board. These are spring material that clamps onto the board edges and holds them straight and thus helps to stop the "submarines" (that's what we call it when a board dives into the wave.)

Second is to design "skyhooks" that fit above the board with hooks that hang through openings in the board. You will need different fixture for each type of panel, but they do work.

Third is to get custome made "masks" or panel supports from companies like DMI in Canada. Provide them with your panel layout and they will be able to make a support that you fit your panel into. These pass through the wave with the panel and are also able to mask off areas that you don't want solder to get to.

We've used all three options for years.

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Re: PCB Warpage in Wave Soldering Machines?

05/01/2008 1:58 PM

Could you provide more detailed information on DMI in Canada? Where? Web Page?

Complete name? Thanks, peh

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Re: PCB Warpage in Wave Soldering Machines?

05/01/2008 8:00 AM

Titanium stiffeners work the best provided there is edge clearance. leave them on for a couple of minutes while the board cools. If no edge is available maybe a bar on the top of the board with screws using exsisting holes in board.

If no space is available, get some fiberglass g10 0.093" thick and route out the shape of the board leaving about 1/16" all around the edges (0.032 thk) that you can set the board on. This is a home made pallet. Put the board in the fixture and wave solder the fixture.

Remember: only titanium or stainless should touch the solder and never aluminium!

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Re: PCB Warpage in Wave Soldering Machines?

05/01/2008 11:50 AM

I have experienced the same problem with thin and large surface PCBs.

We purchase wave solder pallets from a company called Stone Mountain Tool.

These pallet are machined to your specification from a glass filled resin that will hold up to wave solder temperatures (525F) repeatedly for 8-10 years. The PCB is carried on the pallet allowing it to be exposed to the solder wave (as does the pallet) to your desired depth. The edges of the PCB are held in place to prevent warpage using simple half turn toggles. Contact is Stone Mountain Tool, Inc. 480 Gees Mill Business Court Conyers, Georgia 30013 Phone 770-929-0166 Fax 770-929-0226

Web page www.stonemountaintool.com Hope this helps. if you would like pictures of our design reply and I can provide. peh

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Re: PCB Warpage in Wave Soldering Machines?

05/01/2008 1:25 PM

It is unclear from your post if the boards are warped prior to entering the wave solder machine. If they are warping during the process check to see if they are a multi-layer board with a large copper plane (usually ground) on one of the outer or near outer layers, while the rest of the layers are circuit runs or pads. Uneven copper on one side of the board will often cause this to happen and the fix is to balance the board layers by putting another large copper plane on the other side or balancing the copper throughout the board.

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Re: PCB Warpage in Wave Soldering Machines?

05/01/2008 10:56 PM

Other areas to look out for are the route out areas for electrical isolation, especially when you have it under transformers.

The problem I mostly get is designers placing HUGE components on a PCB, changing the dynamics of a PCB as it heats and cools, causing the board to warp and bend.

I had 1 board from a customer yesterday, it had the isolation route, the components were about 50mm (2") high, and they needed it tested with MDA (Checksum 2270/71)

The issue I have is several things, warped boards and trying to seal them for vacuum pull down, if using a HDG (hold down gate) trying to get the fingers down between the high components (including the arc from the hinge) and also minimising flex of the DUT to stop cracking components.

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