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Poor pf During Lowering in Winch Application

05/22/2008 4:30 AM

why the power factor goes very lag <40% during lowering of winch?

Potain tower crane MC310,

Source 500kva DG (STAMFORD)

Supply 3phase 415 v,50c/s @ pf 0.8

Winch Motor 110kw DC motor,type 81439-57

Current taking by motor 59 amp. during hoisting,full speed 1500rpm shown on disply pf remains 0.88 lag

current taking by motor 38 amp. during lowering, full speed 2000rpm shown on diplay pf goes very poor less than 0.4 lag

Drive used to operate the winch RECTIVAR 4 (RTV84C40S)

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Re: poor pf during lowering in winch application

05/22/2008 6:43 AM

The power factor should be low when you're lowering the hoist. It's not doing as much work at that point. (Note I'm assuming that 0.4 lag means the current is lagging the voltage). The 38A seems awfully high though but it might just be the type of motor control. What about this is puzzling you?

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Re: poor pf during lowering in winch application

05/22/2008 12:50 PM

Exactly current lags voltages by 0.4. I could not understand why the speed rise during lowering, am i right if i say motor goes on regeneration mode during lowering due high speed.

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Re: poor pf during lowering in winch application

05/22/2008 1:54 PM

In drilling applications this is true the motor does go into regen mode during lowering of winch, which will then send the excess power back into either a water cooled resistor, or the system..

I believe you are correct, the increase in speed you are seeing is the excess power being used by the motor (hence regen) , because it must go somewhere.

I would be interested in knowing how the drive expends the power.. It should be in associated literature of drive..

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