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Fluid Damper System for a PC Steering Wheel

08/13/2006 8:00 AM

I have been searching on Google for the past three weeks to absolutely no avail. What I am looking for is a product (something that I could actually purchase) that would add resistance to the steering and even-out rapid wheel movements. I have found several good articles on the uses of such a product, but I cannot find a vendor who actually sells anything like this. For instance, one article I read spoke of (found in this article):

"....application areas for MR fluids include vibration control in domestic appliances such as washing machines; force-feedback (haptic) input devices for personal computers such as joysticks, steering wheels and mice....."

They also started speaking of this:

"Recently, a new way of using MR fluids in which the fluid is contained in an absorbent matrix has been developed. Such 'MR sponge' devices enable low-cost, controllable fluid applications by eliminating the need for most of the high-cost components normally associated with a fluid filled device."

There is a high-quality wheel out on the market which uses a fluid-dampened system to help even out oversteer, etc. This is similar to what I am looking for, but I do not want to infringe on what they have done. This is also strictly for my own benefit, because put quite simply - I cannot afford the product for the price they are asking. I am simply trying to find something suitable for a DIY home project. The product I am referring to is this (scroll 3/4 the page to where it describes the "FLDS" system):

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

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fluid damper

08/13/2006 1:19 PM

I'm guessing, but would think you could find a fluid head on a used tripod for a very low price. I didn't realize how sophisticated game steering wheels have become!

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Thank you

08/13/2006 8:22 PM

Thank you for the feedback. I will check that out. Sophisticated.....indeed they have. The controllers are just one part of it. The technology coming out now and in the very near future, will give older guys like me, a chance to finally experience (very close anyways) to what an actual driver would feel....pretty exciting stuff.

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Shimmy Damper

08/14/2006 1:25 AM

I think what you are looking for is called a shimmy damper. They are used on the nose wheel of many types of aircraft. The most basic are self contained and work like a shock absorber. Others can be connected to a hydraulic system and used for steering and or adjustment. For the most part they are lightweight and rather inexpensive. Not high tech, but simple. Check out Aircraft Spruce. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/

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Fluid Damper

08/14/2006 5:46 PM

See the August 10th issue of Machine Design, specifically the article "Steer-by-Wire Challenges Hydraulics". http://www.machinedesign.com/ASP/viewSelectedArtic le.asp?strArticleId=60875&strSite=MDSite&Screen=CU RRENTISSUE&CatID=3 . The sidebar lists several manufacturers or users of such devices, mostly on electric lift trucks.

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Fluid Damper

08/15/2006 11:49 AM

Thanks for the feedback.

*Avi-tech
Actually I had an idea in mind for something along those lines of the shimmy damper, not sure I could really make that work. Couldn't find (at least on that website) what you were talking about as far as the damper connected to the hydraulic/steering unit....will check more into that.

*Ron
Yes, that is exactly what I am trying to find. I have read that article as well, along with several others. In the last few days, I have read several different articles on "Steer by wire" or "X by wire" that sound promising, but again finding a vendor/supplier that actually lists these on their site as a purchasable product seems to be an impossible task. The one that I have found the closest to what I am looking for, seem to be this from DanaherMotion: Steering Applications - 'Drive by Wire' "APS"

http://www.danahermotion.com/industry_solutions/li ft_trucks/lt_blocks.html#Steering

They also talk about a "Direct Drive Steering" but the seems to be technology they have not quite put in production, as far as I can tell.

Thanks to all for your responses, more always welcome.

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Fluid Damper

08/15/2006 1:06 PM

I have actually found a few products that might work , but having no luck in actually getting a quote or a location of a distributor for it....still working on that. One speaks of Lord "sMaRt Steering Brake" but all I can find are articles explaining it's uses, the other is their "Tactile Feedback Device" that I think could work....but again, pulling teeth to get a quote. http://www.lord.com/Default.aspx?tabid=2089/

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PC sterring contol

09/07/2006 2:05 PM

Fix a rubber band to the top of the wheel and the body of the device. get it tight but not too tight. The resistance should give your body the message it needs to gain more control with the device.

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