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Wanted: Boeing Riveting Specifications

06/05/2008 9:35 AM

Good morning

we are special purpose machine tools manufacturer based in France and we would like to get the Boeing's riveting specifications in order to develop one of our machine.

is there anybody who could help ?

My request to Boeing seems to be lost as i don't have any reply despite some reminder .

awaiting your assistance

best regards

Michel LEROY

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Re: looking for riveting specifications

06/05/2008 1:01 PM

Good luck with that request. Company specification, weather Boeing or anyone else are closely held company private documents.

Anyone with possession of the spec you request must also have a non-disclosure agreement with Boeing, so if they did have it, they shouldn't share it.

sorry to say, but your only "legal" chance of getting that spec. is from Boeing directly.

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Re: looking for riveting specifications

06/05/2008 1:10 PM

Dear Sir

thanks for your reply, we've tryed what you call the "legal" way and that's what we want to do , just a problem is that Boeing didn't reply to us till today ...

i'll try again

best regards

M Leroy

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Re: looking for rivetting specifications

06/05/2008 1:09 PM

This document has some rivets with part numbers and Vendors where the rivets are purchased.

http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices/doingbiz/tcmdhs/misc.pdf

You then would google the supplier and part number to get the specs

They have some patents on special rivets they developed themselves. They have also developed a recoilless rivet gun, I doubt they would give out this information to a competitor.

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Re: Wanted: Boeing Riveting Specifications

06/05/2008 11:27 PM

Please take this the most straight forward way possible. Boeing is and American company that purchases goods and services around the world. If your country made "any" effort to partner up or even be friendly to America you my have a chance. My suggestion to you and most of your countrymen "call Airbus".

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Re: Wanted: Boeing Riveting Specifications

06/06/2008 9:29 AM

You failed to ask the obvious question that I would havew asked this Gentleman,

IS AIRBUS HIRING?

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Re: Wanted: Boeing Riveting Specifications

06/06/2008 9:59 AM

Airbus have nothing to do with this problem, at least i'm wondering if they will be happy to know that we could build machine which could be sold to competition.

I assume My question was not clear,

I'll like to know if somebody know the right contact person at Boeing or the right e.mail address where we have to send our request because it's already a lot of mails send since 2 months to different Boeing mail box without reply and we got lost between different services .

when we will found the right contact at Boeing, then it will be their choice to give us the specs or not and to allow us or not to build machine able to process their parts.

in all cases we want to work with original copy officialy delivered by Boeing .

have a good week end

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Re: Wanted: Boeing Riveting Specifications

06/06/2008 10:45 AM

miketheboilerguy, please take this the most straight forward way as possible.

By "partner up" do you mean participate in the slaughter of innocnet people in the "name" of freedom - and I don't meant that Sadam and his cronies were innocent,its the hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children that I am talking about, decent people who just wanted to work and raise their families, very much like most people on this forum I suspect.

Because someone has a different point of view it does not mean that they are not your friends - grow up and stop being a fool.

Guest, please register and stop hiding, if you have something to say then stand up and say it, you are a coward in my opinion.

This was a request for technical information, I am sure you both can find another forum to voice your anti French views on, please do so and do not bring them into this forum.

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Re: Wanted: Boeing Riveting Specifications

06/06/2008 9:19 PM

Mr. Snow,

I am sorry that I offended you. If you are a French sympathizer it clearly is your choice. If you are French it probably is by history. My "anti French" comments are made because the French in general do not like, support nor make any attempt to do "partner" like business with my country. That was all I was expressing. As far as this forum not being the place...you are not correct. one of the most active threads in the last year was a great inter active thread about the lack of quality people for the work force. As far as someone hiding "Hole In The Snow" you need to bury your head in the snow and cool off. This forum is 100% ABOUT SOMEONE HAVING A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW. I case you are not aware even with the exact end result you can complete a project from more the one direction. That is illustrated with the fact that manned flight came about at almost the same time on your continent and mine. I believe you won that one, but none the less....be friendlier and I will try to express myself better. Regarding your comment "coward" it is unlikely that you live in a country that has not been helped by my "cowardly" countryman so I will simply take your comment as infantile or of anger.If you live in or near France make a short trip to a place that holds the bodies of my cowardly countryman that died not in an attempt to slaughter anyone. They died to free a continent from a slaughterer. In closing every country on earth has innocent people simply trying to raise a family. My problem with some groups (not entire countries) is that they raise their next generation to eliminate complete strangers. My country does not raise people to invade others that is why we did away with the draft. So let's make a deal you send me an email directly and I will respond with a very friendly and open back ground of myself and my family then you can determine if I am a bad man. If you determine that I am not good I will apologize on the forum (more then I have today). If you determine that I am not a bad man I will announce to this forum how to help the desert sand make friends with the snow. It is that simple. I hope I have not posed to much of a challenge.

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Re: Wanted: Boeing Riveting Specifications

06/07/2008 11:05 AM

Miketheboilerman, Please let me explain my point of view:

I am not French nor have I any allegiance to France. Had this been an anti-USA theme (in my humble opinion) then I would have reacted the exact same way. The same is true if it was an anti-Chinese, Africian etc thread. A persons race, religion or sexual preference should not be used as a means to discriminate against them.

Regarding the French and the USA - was it not the French who presented the Statue of Liberty (Statue de la Liberté) to yourselves in 1886 to commemorate the centennial of the United States and is a gesture of friendship from France to the U.S. ?

Yes this forum is about people having a different point of view but a different point of view on technical matters and not race/ religion etc matters - are you suggesting that it would be appropriate to allow members of the KKK to use this forum to express their opinions, or would it be appropriate to allow Nazi's to use this forum to express their point of view ?

Not to assist someone because you do not agree with what they are doing is one thing but not assisting because someone is from a different country from yourself really annoys me - had this French poster requested assistance with the development of a new "Super Enviromentally Friendly Product" would you have responded the same way ?

Yes indeed my country has been helped by your country, equally your country was helped by members of my country in the past.

You do not need to apologize for your opinion, you have every right to hold it and I have every right to disagree with it - that is what seperates our countries from certain other countries on this planet.

I am not suggesting that you are a bad person - I simply do not agree with your initial response to this thread - that does not mean that we could not be friends.

Kind Regards

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Re: Wanted: Boeing Riveting Specifications

06/08/2008 1:58 AM

Thank you for your kind words. Yes In would offer help to another. And in fairness I am humbled by the statue of Liberty and what it symbolizes to my country and all of those that pass by it. I wish it meant more to France.

I will be watching for you in the future I hope we can contribute together soon.

Mike

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Re: Wanted: Boeing Riveting Specifications

06/08/2008 8:23 AM

Mike, I am sure that we will contribute and disagree on future threads. I look forward to that.

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Re: Wanted: Boeing Riveting Specifications

06/06/2008 8:36 PM

Ill send him an app. if he likes.

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Re: Wanted: Boeing Riveting Specifications

06/08/2008 12:50 PM

dear Sir

sorry but what mean an app.??? English is not my mother linguish and some abreviation doens't means anything for me . sorry for that .

if it is for appointment in Seattle, it will be great .

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Re: Wanted: Boeing Riveting Specifications

06/05/2008 11:31 PM

If you are contracted with Boeing then you should have no problems purchasing their manuals. Boeing D-590 Parts Standards Manual would be a good start. I would be very surprised that Boeing wouldn't include build-to specification in their RFQ.

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