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Leak Test Specialist

06/11/2008 8:50 AM

Is there a definition of an "Attribute Gauge" within a "Standard"? Our corporate Quality Group has a definition stating that "if a "go-no go" gauge makes the decision based on variable data, then it is a 'variable gauge' because this data allows determination of 'how good or bad' the feature is.

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06/11/2008 9:55 AM

There is no "attribute gauge, or gage" in quality statistics. It is important to distinguish between attribute and variable statistics. As you noted, when a record is made of an actual measured quality characteristic, such as a dimension, that quality is said to be expressed by variables. When a record shows only the number of articles conforming and the number of articles failing to conform to any specified requirements, it is said to be a record by attributes.

All manufactured products must meet certain requirements, either expressed or implied. Many can be stated as variables (dimensions, hardness, weight, strength, etc.) which usually include both upper and lower limits. Other requirements are necessarily stated in terms of attributes, rather than variables (cosmetic appearance, number of holes, surface defects, cracks, etc.). Thus, many attributes of a product are evaluated by visual inspection; rather than gages or instruments.

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06/11/2008 10:14 AM

Thank you. My problem is we are testing for the attribute of LEAK TIGHTNESS as defined as no hole in the casting larger than the equivalent hydraulic diameter of an 8 micron sharp edge orifice. This is determined by measuring air flow through the leak and rejecting everything above the flow through the master orifice. Quality says that makes it a variable gauge doubling the cost.

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06/11/2008 10:47 AM

If the air flow rate is fixed and constant, it's an attribute (leak, no leak).

If the air flow rate is variable with upper and lower limits of flow, and those flows are recorded, charted and analyzed, then it becomes a variable statistic.

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06/12/2008 8:25 AM

If the "measurement" is Go / No Go or Pass/ Fail, its attribute data.

If its quantifiable by real numbers it is variable data. here's a definition, SImilar to the ones in most statistics courses and AIAG.

http://www.sixsigmaspc.com/dictionary/discreteattributedata.html

Short answer, if you record a number like 10.8 cc of air flow per minute (or whatever, then it is variables.

However if you have a cutoff value, and you are recording as strictly that result (Above 10.8 = FAIL) or (Below 10.8 =Pass), then it is attribute data. If you record a discrete number for each test, 10.9, 10.2, 9.8, 12, 11.4, etc. its variables data.

Attribute data is qualitative, (IS/IS NOT; PASS/ FAIL; Present/ Not Present) not quantitative (1.2555; 10.82; 78.9 etc.)

Thats about as clear as I can make it.

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11/27/2008 8:08 AM

Establish the limits of acceptability. Since its an attribute that you are establishing (reject if leaking vs accept if not leaking) your limits are the variables for the attribute. If you determine that a casting can be accepted if leaking between 1 to 2 lpm then that is a GO! If the leak is above that which was determined; then that is No-Go!

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