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Long Distance, Hard Wired Communications

06/13/2008 6:39 AM

I have to run comms between a plc and a pc/hmi that are 300 metres apart. Power supply available at both ends and instrument 'clean' cable tray run available.

Was looking at ethernet but this requires booster stations every 50 metres which I want to avoid. Current thinking is an ethrnet spider hub at either end with fibre-optic over the 300 meter run.

Any other options? Would prefer copper wire solution to fibre optic.

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Re: Long Distance Hard Wired Comms

06/13/2008 10:51 AM
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Re: Long Distance, Hard Wired Communications

06/13/2008 1:09 PM

You can use coax over longer distances with hugh success,Rg54 typical, and is cheaper to maintain by yourself than optic fibre,unless if you got the gear to do your own optic tail end terminations.

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Re: Long Distance, Hard Wired Communications

06/13/2008 7:41 PM

How fast are you going? For limited speed comms, RS422 or RS485 can be good options for your kind of distance (and a lot more).

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Re: Long Distance, Hard Wired Communications

06/14/2008 1:59 AM

Go fiber!!!

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Re: Long Distance, Hard Wired Communications

06/14/2008 2:31 AM

Yes Fiber.

multi-mode is cheapest and will run 2000 meters without repeaters.

SynOptics has FDDI that may be able to be your solution

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Re: Long Distance, Hard Wired Communications

06/14/2008 2:37 AM

Among others.

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Re: Long Distance, Hard Wired Communications

06/14/2008 7:41 AM

If the speed is not an issue you can use copper wires with modems or GDN-s, otherwise the solution is the fiber.

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Re: Long Distance, Hard Wired Communications

06/14/2008 1:36 PM

Multi-mode fiber given this distance is your best bet...and will be cheaper than coax.

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06/16/2008 10:59 AM

I have used US Robotics modems over AWG 22 UTP wire up to 3000 meters with no problems. The biggest concern is that modems (and most long-distance copper solutions) are getting harder to find as fiber costs continue to drop.

Wireless is another alternative you should consider. Many utilities in the US use spread spectrum radio for SCADA telemetry. It can reach 10 miles. Microwave Data Systems is one source I have used in the past.

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Re: Long Distance, Hard Wired Communications

06/18/2008 9:33 AM

RS 485 for non critical data or CAN bus for important stuff.

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