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Engine or equipment lifting bracket.

06/16/2008 5:22 PM

I asked this question first in "automotive" and then thought, "who would design this?" Now I have it posted in Mechanical Engineering...the folks who would design something like this.

I am trying to locate a distributor for engine lifting brackets. It's a simple piece of stamped metal about 3" long, 1 1/2 " wide and 1/4" thick - with a 1/2" hole in both ends. I have found several "lifting brackets/eye bolts" but they are expensive. I have to replace them every 12 months so they need to be cheap, real cheap. I need about 300 per year.

Any information would be appreciated.

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Re: Engine or equipment lifting bracket.

06/16/2008 6:24 PM

I can't help you with a distributor, but I am curious why you need so many and why you have to replace them once a year.... Sounds to me like you need a better design....

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06/17/2008 7:20 AM

This "attachment" design was engineered by our tool supplier; for many years this design has proven itself reliable. Recently the company/ies I work for was bought by a very large company and of course the inspections by everyone and their brother began. When the environmental health and safety people came thru, they insisted the chains attach to a bracket and we either have the chains and hardware certified once a year or change it once a year. It will be easier and cheaper to change it than to have someone come in to certify.

Currently I am using a 3/8" grade 80 chain, 3 hardened flat washers, a 1/2" grade 8 bolt and lock nut to secure less than 600 lbs. The bolt is thru a washer, thru the chain, thru the second washer, thru 3/8" steel plate (on the tool) thru the third washer, and finally secured with a lock nut. This is a safety chain for "in case" the first chain fails.

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06/17/2008 1:40 PM

Sounds to me like I'm glad that's your headache and not mine. That's part of why I ran my own shop for the last 20 of my career.

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06/17/2008 11:26 PM

You don't have a 2nd saftey chain incase the other 2 fail (possibly come into practice as the morons in OH&S decide that their being too efficient and they tighten everything up to make it look like they are doing the right thing)

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06/18/2008 3:32 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong but every new chain and bracket will require certification. So to certify each chain every year should be cheaper than producing new chains with certification.

Would it be cheaper to spend good money on a redundant set of chains and brackets so when the cert. runs out on the first set they can be sent away for re-cert. and the spare set can be used in production.

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06/16/2008 9:11 PM

Have you checked J.C. Witney, Northern Tool etc.

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06/17/2008 6:25 PM

Provide me with a drawing/sketch/photo and I will give you a quote. It's likely that I can make them in small quantities for a very good price.

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06/18/2008 12:07 AM

Give us a drawing and material specification and we could quote.

Great job for a small tool and die shop, (indepently owned).

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06/18/2008 1:34 AM

Gday mate.

Have you thought about knocking them up on the weekend over a few beers.

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06/18/2008 2:43 AM

You might try a local steel supply company. I buy quite a bit of off the shelf prefab steel from one here in AZ, and have seen items similar to what you have described for little more than the cost of steel. Unless you require a higher grade alloy other than CR or HR steel, this would be your best bet. If you can't find what your looking for there, most any machine shop is capable of stamping 1/2" holes in 1 1/2"X1/4" bar stock relatively cheap. Ask about a quantity discount and possibly buy a few years worth.

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06/18/2008 4:37 AM

would that steel fab shop be the one which used to be operated? owned? by a guy named vic? victor lebarge who came south from some place in canada in the late 50's or early 60s?

are you somewhere near phenix or yuma?

i think one of his kids has? had? the same first name.

thanks 'da ber

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06/18/2008 8:35 PM

I don't know. I buy from Industrial Metal Supply, formally Capitol Metal. I am in Phoenix.

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06/18/2008 6:28 AM

I have a colleague who makes them for local auto mechanic shops and the charges are minimal. Contact me through this website if you need a price.

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06/18/2008 8:10 AM

Hey Rob, It is nice to see another LA (lower Alabama) person on this site. I was raised in south Alabama myself although I live in Georgia now. I own a small metal Fab shop and I believe I could make them pretty cheap for you. From your description it is not a complicated piece to make. I remember a lifting bracket like you described but I was thinking it was bent in the middle to about a 60 degree bend. We used to remove an intake bolt at opposite ends/sides of the block and add one of these brackets between the bolt head and intake. I have also seen brackets that the chain hole is slotted so you can adjust the length of chain. I am not sure this is what you are talking about though without seeing a drawing or further description.

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06/18/2008 10:04 AM

I have an engine lift with a chain leveling device that is hooked to a hand cranked screw mechanism. The chains then go to a couple of plates that can be bolted to a number of places. I got mine from Harbour Freight.

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06/18/2008 1:17 PM

I really appreciate all the people on this site that have answered me. My dilemma has past; I think the brackets were just someone trying to make Rob's life difficult.

Thanks,

Rob T.

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06/18/2008 10:27 AM

It sounds like you could almost justify your own 'iron worker' machine. A small iron worker would be easily capable of shearing and punching 1/4" steel bar stock. These machines are so fun and easy to use that once you have one, you will wonder how you ever sustained life without one.

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06/18/2008 9:22 PM

We used a marine industrial supply (wire rope and rigging) in either Mobile, AL or Biloxi, MS..

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#19

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06/22/2008 5:57 AM

Why don't you simply visit local junkyards/car recyclers...you could find lift brackets aplenty and for very little money. (And the vast majority will never have borne any weight!) Or maybe make an arrangement with same to buy so many brackets from them periodically at an agreed price....maybe they would even "pull" the brackets for you. (If not the business, then a worker looking for a little side action.)

Having them manufactured sounds unnecessarily cumbersome, wasteful, and expensive.

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