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Rogue Waves!

09/06/2006 12:45 PM

For centuries sailors have told tales of giant waves in the middle of ocean that materialize from beyond the horizon on clear calm days to sink ships. For a long time scientists disregarded these accounts as superstition. Recently, when confronted with satellite evidence, scientists have come around and now have accepted the idea of these "rogue waves".

Measurements by offshore oil platforms and satellites put the waves at heights up to 30 meters, but most ships are built to withstand just 15-meter waves. Despite the need, researchers still don't understand exactly how rogue waves form. To make a rogue wave, you need to combine the energy of several ordinary waves. This is unlikely to happen by mere chance, so theorists have devised several ways to focus ocean waves into one spot. One way is to have an ocean current oppose the direction of wind-swept waves, causing a traffic jam out of which a giant could arise. But rogues often occur without significant currents, so one popular alternative is to assume a so-called non-linear property of the waves, in which the wave velocity depends on the wave height. In a group of waves, smaller ones travel slower and can pile up on a faster-moving large wave if it comes from behind. The small additions make the large wave still larger, and therefore able to speed up and "swallow" even more small waves. "Because of this positive feedback, the energy is self-focused," explains Mattias Marklund of Umea University in Sweden.

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Waves of Destruction

09/07/2006 2:56 AM

From the article you referenced, it appears as if the wave systems in 'crossing seas', where the waves meet at angles around 45 degrees are the more probable cause. I hope the research will lead to more predictability of these monster waves. Maybe some form of radar warning system can also be of use?

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Rogue waves

09/07/2006 4:45 AM

What about the Adlard Coles and Peter Bruce book ? "Heavy Weather Sailing" Peter Bruce Adlard Coles, Mc Graw Hill. 30 years ago, 4th edition now. a full chapter refers to big waves, includes photos and even show a measure of such wave by a specialized sea station off english coast.

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Rogue Waves

09/08/2006 10:31 AM

The chances that waves would coincide is considered "unlikely". Suppose the chances (from random crest-to-crest coincidences) are one in a million, or one in a billion, or even one in a trillion. How many waves are there on the oceans at a time? Over a 24-hour period? Over a year? I think you'd find it a certainty that there are several such waves on our planet at any given moment, if we just knew where to look.

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Re:Rogue Waves

09/10/2006 4:29 AM

If you look at any water filled vessel. Waves at the center go high. Waves break at boundaries but at the center they multiply in height.

This must be happening in the sea as well.

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Re: Rogue Waves!

11/10/2006 9:43 PM

Sounds reasonable to me.Imagine a snowball rolling down a hill, running over smaller snowballs on the way down.The mass of the "Snowball" increases, and picks up speed .

In a wave this would result in an increase in height, greater frontal area, and more wind resistance would add even more to the total height.Easy to imagine this process giving birth to super waves.I would also imagine the hydrodynamic effect of smaller waves could contribute to the height.The bottom of the larger wave would "stub it's toe" on a slower moving smaller wave, which would add to the height of the larger wave.The taller wave could also contribute to the smaller wave being slower, as it shields it from the wind.

I have been in storms in the north atlantic in winter, where the waves were over 80 ft., but this was stormy weather, and all watertight hatches were battened down, and you can face into the waves, not calm weather where one can be caught unaware and broadsided.

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