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Sulfuric Acid Characteristic

07/02/2008 2:54 PM

Why is spent acid <88% wt more corrosive than fresh acid 98% wt to carbon steal. What is the chemical reaction to the metal?

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07/02/2008 9:00 PM

And what are the extra ions in the spent acid from its first application that make it spent?What else is in the liquid?

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07/02/2008 10:24 PM

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07/02/2008 11:09 PM

Cheers back atcha!

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07/03/2008 11:16 AM

Hello Milo, We use Sulfuric Acid as a catylist to produce Alkylate (gasoline). We react Olefin with Isobutane. Just trying to recall by products, such as water (dilution) causing corrosion. Fellow CR4 directed me to info below. Not sure why is spent more corrosive.

When sulfuric acid first contacts carbon steel, iron sulfate (FeSO4) is produced. The iron sulfate coats the steel and forms a "passivation" film which then protects the carbon steel from further corrosion. Flammable hydrogen gas (H2) is also produced by the corrosion reaction: Fe(S) + H2SO4(l) --> FeSO4(s) + H2(g)

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07/03/2008 11:28 AM

In that case my thinkiing is that the additional h2 o in the spent acid then dissolves/removes the iron salt FeSO4 "passivation film" exposing more steel.

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07/02/2008 11:09 PM

In instrumentation circles the explanation has been: 98% causes initial corrosion the instant it touches the steel then all further corrosion is inhibited due to the resultant steel oxide forming a layer over the steel thus preventing continuing corrosion. 88% obviously has a fair load of free water in the acid and this water will dissolve the steel oxide layer away from the surface of the steel. thus allowing more corrosion to occur ect...

For a full molecular description you will have to consult a chemist or Uncle Wikipedia.

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07/03/2008 5:11 AM

i agree, you can see corrosion in carbon steel even at 98% sulfuric at the liquid line due to possible dilution by humidity. The corrosion is a function also of the velocity of the fluid, high velocity will remove the oxide layer and cause further corrosion.

FAQ on Handling of Sulfuric Acid - Dupont

http://www2.dupont.com/Clean_Technologies/en_US/assets/downloads/Equipment_FAQs.pdf

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07/03/2008 10:00 AM

I agree with milo's post. If you want to reduce the potential for reaction with the steel surface though, I would recommend you consider use of an appropriate corrosion inhibitor at an adequate concentration in the acid solution; one specific to the steel type and other components in the acid solution. I studied the action of these inhibitors (typically organic types) and found they are quite specific to the chemistry of the steel and the concentration levels.

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07/03/2008 11:39 AM

My old chemistry teacher said that near pure sulfuric acid is mostly molecular, where the more it gets diluted, the more it's ionic. (H+ and SO4-). It's more reactive in that form, since the molecule is fairly stable.

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