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Aluminium busbar

07/21/2008 10:21 AM

How to protect aluminium busbars a the contact point to avoid oxidation and overheating?

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Re: Aluminium busbar

07/21/2008 3:39 PM

Use an electrical jointing compound (such as a zinc-based grease). There are plenty around and they both increase joint conductivity and protect surfaces against oxidation.

Try your local electrical wholesaler.

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07/21/2008 5:50 PM

Thanks. How long will that work? I am considering to use aluminium bars instead of copper cables in a apartment building vertical power supply. Bars must last forever.

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07/21/2008 6:23 PM

The grease option I mentioned in post #1 is industry standard for the power industry here. Overhead aluminium high tension power line joints and fittings (the ones dangling from the tall steel pylons) are protected in this way and they are expected to last forever also.

You may also want to check your local electrical regulations and building practice standards as there is likely more information there (as to any special conditions and requirements necessary when implementing aluminium busbars as the main backbone power distribution system for a building). For example, in your application you may need flexible joints on the busbars (remember buildings flex and move and while flexible copper cables can flex, rigid aluminium bus work cannot).

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07/24/2008 10:50 AM

Spray the contact points using a tungsten alloy. I have done this in the past with good results.

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07/24/2008 3:44 PM

Spray the contact points using a tungsten alloy. I have done this in the past with good results.

Was this for custom made Aluminium to Aluminium disconnect type switch contacts or was it for actual Aluminium to aluminium bolted busbars?

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07/24/2008 5:08 PM

I cant be sure. It seemed to be a common type application. I don't believe anything we sprayed was custom engineered.

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07/24/2008 5:38 PM

No I mean was your application you worked on tungsten alloy coated Aluminium to Aluminium disconnect type switch contacts (effectively two busbars that move and act as a big switch) or was it actually tungsten alloy coated Aluminium to Aluminium bolted busbars (joining two fixed bus bars togeather)?

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07/25/2008 10:19 AM

As far as I can remember we were coating the Aluminum because of wear the contact points were receiving. I reviewed my notes and found that we also applied this same alloy on copper for the same reason.

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07/26/2008 5:04 PM

I thought it may be for contacts. Coating switch or other similar types of contacts with gold, silver, tungsten or alloys is all well and good because they have to move against each other and potentially also carry make and break currents that can electrically pit and wear contacts down thru inductive and capacitive load arcing) and increase their resistance (potentially overheating the contact surfaces and causing the switch to fail). When bolting two bus bars together it isn't really necessary. A bolted joint that doesn't need to be opened and closed (like a switch) has less surface preparation requirements, so in most situations (including the original poster's one), coating the faces of the busbars being bolted together is an unnecessary expense.

An electrical grease wouldn't be a good idea for a switch because it would quickly be rubbed off by the switching action (in which case you would want plating that doesn't rub off), but in the above application electrical grease is the way to go.

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07/29/2008 8:30 AM

Does the grease prevent oxidation of the Aluminum?

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07/29/2008 3:33 PM

Among other things yes. It also provides a barrier against water and moisture getting into the joint which can degrade the joint over time causing joint failure thru overheating (in certain environments, such as outdoors).

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09/02/2008 5:42 AM

One such product is ALMINOX from ALM Dulmison another comes from Utilux. There are sharp particles within the paste to cut through the Alumina film which forms on the surface. As for using bolted Aluminium bus bar, unless it is done perfectly expect failure sooner rather than later. Welded busbar is another story, the hollow welded busbar in HV switchyards stands up nicely to the elements, is self supporting and low maintenance as well as being compatable with aerial conductors

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