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The Great Climate Change Debate - Roger vs 'Guest'

07/24/2008 1:40 PM

Okay, in one corner we have Roger Pink, great thinker and CR4 citizen, representing the Pro Global Warming stance.

In the other corner we have the Mystery Guest X, venerable and valiant in his thinking, representing the Anti-Global Warming viewpoint.

The rules are simple. No hitting under the belt. Keep each blow simple and direct. Stay within the upper body.

I'll be refereeing this match and proving a blow-by-blow account for all you folk in radio land. Points will be awarded as I see fit and I will call any play that violates the sanctity of the spirit of good argumentation.

I will ask the crowd to refrain from jumping in the ring, at least until the very end where we will follow this match with free-for-all mud wrestling match with common sense tied behind your backs.

Remember to keep your claims concise and to the point. I would prefer a one or two sentence statement and by all means cite references!

This match will consist of series of positing a claim followed by a rebuttal. Each candidate will be allowed one follow-up post to address his candidate's post. I'll score each set at the end of the 4-post spat.

After the final rebuttal, the other candidate will make a claim and the process will continue back and forth until the final round's bell sounds.

To make it easier for me, which is what really counts here, please number your posts and replies with a 1 for the first set, then 2 for the next set in the Title of each post. So, the first four posts will have a 1 in their title, then the next four posts should have a 2... and so on...

I retain the right to deduct points for chronic abuses of this rule.

Round one will start with Mystery Guest X first. You may postulate a claim of your choice.

DING! Round One Starts!!!

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07/24/2008 1:42 PM

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Re: The Great Climate Change Debate - Roger vs 'Guest'

07/24/2008 2:19 PM

So do I win if Guest doesn't show up? Also, how do we know its the same guest? Also, what are all those disclaimers about?

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Re: The Great Climate Change Debate - Roger vs 'Guest'

07/24/2008 2:41 PM

Ah, so many questions. I will answer each in turn...

1. Sure, you will win, but winning by default won't settle the debate.

2. Tricky. I will have to use advanced secret government technologies. The Email-Tap warrant has been applied for, just in case any whistle blowers are out there.

3. Good question! I'll give you a multiple choice:

  • a. I always try to cover my butt.
  • b. You have to have a sense of humor to survive around here.
  • c. We have too many under-employed attorneys.
  • d. All of the above.
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Re: The Great Climate Change Debate - Roger vs 'Guest'

07/24/2008 3:17 PM

I'm guessing "d", all of the above.

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Re: The Great Climate Change Debate - Roger vs 'Guest'

07/24/2008 2:39 PM

Over at my other forums "Mystery Guest X" is commanly referred to as ALT.

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Re: The Great Climate Change Debate - Roger vs 'Guest'

07/24/2008 3:16 PM

Roger,

I concede all points. You truly are brilliant. I realize now that Global Warming is real and caused by man. Thank you for helping me see the light.

Yours truly,

Guest

ps. You're Awesome!

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07/24/2008 3:27 PM

I'm sorry, I had a brain fart, and rescind that last post. (great, now roger going to blame my contribution to GW)

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07/24/2008 3:34 PM

Pointless belittling by a guest. If this is the quality of debate we can expect then it's a waste of everyone's time. The mods should shut it down.

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07/24/2008 3:38 PM

Imposter! How dare you put words in my mouth. I am the true "guest" and I say Roger is awesome.

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07/24/2008 3:34 PM

As any real DU'er would ask.

MIHOP or LIHOP

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07/24/2008 3:35 PM

Anonymous Hero;

Shouldn't there be a third participant here,

the Ross Perot of GW, only not as fanatical.

I believe in GW, but not as the pro GW fanatic's. And that is there GW, but not the severity of it.

Or is this a (2) person race?

Guest #2 (left out)

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07/24/2008 3:41 PM

I'm afraid this is only a two person debate. Roger vs. Guest. And its been decided. Clearly Roger has won.

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Re: The Great Climate Change Debate - Roger vs 'Guest'

07/24/2008 3:40 PM

Why should it be a guest? How about someone who we can identify? After all, who is anonymous hero, who is silas marner after all. If you truly want it one-on-one, if you want legitimate debate, then set it up so. If you want anonymous potshots and a bunch of pointless non-sequiters, then it's fine as is.

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07/24/2008 3:47 PM

Look at the debates on this,

If you truly want it one-on-one, if you want legitimate debate, then set it up so.

What's stopping you?

You do you have an opinion?

Please review posts #4 and #6.

Thanks, for you contribution, it will be considered.

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07/24/2008 4:02 PM

Good question. "Guest" is the person who did not sign in or does not have a log in and was debating, rather well, I might add, with Roger in the Polar Bear post.

I know "Guest" knows who he is, but no one else does, so it makes it confusing. "Guest" is real and if he goes for the challenge, should provide a good debate.

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07/24/2008 4:20 PM

I wouldn't say he was debating well, I wasn't engaging him/her because they were a guest. I only agreed to because you asked and he/she never showed up here (probably unaware that this thread exists).

Recruit your best candidate to debate me (preferably someone who is succinct) and I'm game. I'll be waiting.

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07/24/2008 4:33 PM

Roger is that you?

A.H. This is confusing, It's is a good idea, but I think a little more thought has to be put in here.

one more thing (fyi);

suc·cinct Audio Help /səkˈsɪŋkt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[suhk-singkt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

–adjective

1.expressed in few words; concise; terse.
2.characterized by conciseness or verbal brevity.
3.compressed into a small area, scope, or compass.
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a.drawn up, as by a girdle.
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close-fitting.

c.encircled, as by a girdle.
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07/24/2008 4:44 PM

AH,

Why did you give me the definition of succinct? You realize that's exactly what I meant, right? I meant someone who can make their points without going on and on and making it feel like a one person conversation.

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07/24/2008 4:53 PM

That was me Roger, my question to AH is that its a good idea but confusing. as you see, by having guests.

there are a google of guests, and one roger. and Roger I think you have them out numbered.

wait a second here.....

from post #16 from guest:

Recruit your best candidate to debate me (preferably someone who is succinct) and I'm game. I'll be waiting.

Now I get it, Roger, are you turning this into a one man debate, thats what you want, shame on you.......

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07/24/2008 10:10 PM

OK, I'm caught

The real Guest never showed up so I had to give the people a show. I still remember all those 1st round Tyson knockouts in the 80s where there was all this hype and then it was over before it ever got started. I thought the 4 people reading this thread in breathless anticipation of my dizzying debating prowess deserved more. The only problem was, I couldn't bring myself to disagree with myself, if that makes any sense (it doesn't), so it just ended up being me posing as Guest telling myself that I was awesome. In hindsight, its probably the only way this could have turned out.

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07/25/2008 7:44 AM

I figured it was you, and I was disappointed that the "guest" never showed up either......, you can never count on the guest. And when it was basically suceeded, I wanted to keep it going, So I was also the other guest, , because I really looking forward to this, but this should have been set up as a panel instead of one against the world.

your a good man with a passion for your convictions, and if we played kickball like we did in grade school, I'd want you on my side, because you play to win.

see ya 'round

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07/24/2008 4:01 PM

Where did AH go?

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07/24/2008 4:02 PM

Here! I also have a regular job, too, so I can not be here 100% of the time.

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07/24/2008 10:24 PM

Hi AH,

I'm real interested in that fusion information you sent me. I'm interested but believe it or not I tend to be a skeptic on these things so I want to read up on it a bit before I comment about it. Maybe I'll make it a thread if I get enough background information (I'll do the research, I'm interested). Thanks for the heads up.

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07/25/2008 6:43 AM

I await your feedback, Roger.

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07/24/2008 5:14 PM

I don't think it's fair for our beloved RP to to enter this debate with anyone not willing to register. After all, it cost's nothing, takes no more than 1 minute, and no personal information is required. You could be "Guest Q" for all we care, but at least we know it's all coming from the same person.

It just opens the discussion to fraud, as anyone can post anything, even just to enrage everyone, behind the "guest" post.

I'll debate anything with anyone, but not with a 'guest", as I don't really know who the hell I'm talking to each time.

Just my 2 p's worth.

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07/24/2008 5:21 PM

Well put,

As well as confusing.

Anyways, Rogers seems to handle himself well enough with the registers,

phoenix911

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Just my 2 p's worth.

I hope your not expecting change.

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07/24/2008 10:16 PM

Look at all the love from my GW adversaries. It's getting a little misty in here.

Do you guys think a "There is absolutely, positively no doubt about global warming and Al Gore is awesome" thread would kill the moment?

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07/25/2008 6:44 AM

You are too funny!!!

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