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More Fish in the Wrong Place

09/19/2006 5:47 PM

Here's another story of a tropical fish being caught in the northern oceans. this time its a Atlantic triple fin fish being caught off the coast of Britain. The triple fish is usually found off the coasts of Africa and South America and the Mediterranean.

In August, a fisherman looking for salmon off the northeast coast of England caught a large swordfish far away from its natural habitat in the Mediterranean, experts said. In July, scientists reported that a shoal of sunfish -- the world's largest bony fish -- had been spotted in the waters off Cornwall, south west Britain, despite normally being found thousands of miles away.

Here is the story.

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Re: More Fish in the Wrong Place

09/21/2006 12:23 AM

I wonder if this is really odd?

I bet there are animals, fish and fowl who regularly wander off for whatever reason. Fish are more likely than anything to get far because of currents, but birds should be able to put some distance between themselves and their normal habitat as well. Obviously oceans would hinder those of us who use feet.

Social change has made us all more connected and so people finding things are more likely to ask around about it and the news or an appropriate export gets informed and voila, we have an interesting tale.

But it's probably been going on for ever.

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09/21/2006 8:23 AM

I also believe that evolution causes living species to change and move based on survival. Scientists will be better able to track these changes better than the past and in 50 years the tracking and testing will have improved from today.

It's an interesting story although it may just reflect nature and evolutionary changes.

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09/21/2006 10:26 AM

Engineers differ from scientists in responding to this question. Fishermen are far more experienced in noticing the unusual. Global warming takes away from a comfort zone but also ushers in new possibilities. Changes were not better noticed or reported in the past, with the advent of information technology, we better observe and communicate changes.

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Re: More Fish in the Wrong Place

09/21/2006 11:21 AM

I think observation of what is considered unusual is something the people in the field are qualified to do, since they are interacting with the environment on a frequent regular basis. However, their observations as noted are based typically solely on there own experience and recall of events during their period of interaction with the environment, or heresay. People tend to forget or exxagerate memories over time, and only have a working life experience period of about 45-years before retirement. How unusual is an event if 10 people collectively have only seen it occur, that they remember, once in 45-years? We hear of warm water fish being encountered off the coast of Northern California every so often in the newspapers, for as long as i can remember. Maybe slight changes in the thermoclines, or unusual seasonal conditions have made it favorable or forced these species to open new habitats. This is part of what drives evolution, uncontrollable natural conditions forcing changes.

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09/21/2006 12:58 PM

I am in agreement with all of the stories here. Global Warming, and evolution are very equal in causing the results that we are seeing. The real thought is whether or not there will be unlivable conditions for the worlds occupents? Will the world lose more speicies due to man and nature? Undoubtedly. Is this extinction a new event? No. Time is going to continue to repeat itself. There will be mass extinctions in the future just as there were in the past. This is the way of the universe. Live and die. All lived before and all will live forever.

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10/14/2006 1:09 PM

Mankind are the 'Stewards' of our environment. True, there have been mass extinctions before, but how many millions of years to recover? Each and every species that goes 'extinct' is a tragic loss of knowledge. A new cure, a new material, could be irretrievably lost. We should all act with responsibility to our Grandchildren and Great-Grandchildren,who will inherit the consequenses of our current 'Stewardship'.

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