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equivalent pipe diameter

08/29/2008 12:44 AM

I am connecting four 4" pipes coming out from four different heat exchangers into a single . what will be the safe header size? flow rate from each pipe will be 140 cmh. All connections are of MS pipe.

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Re: equivalent pipe diameter

08/29/2008 1:34 AM

What you want to do is, at a minimum, make the same cross-sectional area of the single big pipe equal to (or greater) than the total areas of the four 4" pipes. This will ensure the fluid velocity is the same, or lower, to keep the pressure drops down.

As an example -

Assuming you have 4" Schedule 40 pipe:

4" Sch 40: ID=4.026"; A= 12.73 in2 = 0.0884 ft2

Flowrate = 140 m3/h = 1.3733 ft3/s

Velocity in 4" pipe = 1.3733 / 0.0884 = 15.53 ft/s (NOTE: we don't know the fluid that you are conveying but I assume it is a liquid, perhaps condensate, in which case, a rule of thumb for general water service is to keep the velocity around 6 ft/s - so your velocity seems a little high in which case pressure drops would be more of a concern)

Anyways, to carry on:

Therefore, you want a single pipe with a cross-sectional area of 4x0.0884 ft2 = 0.3536 ft2

That means you want a minimum inside radius of r=√(0.3536/pi) = 0.3355 ft (which gives an inside diameter of 8.052 in)

Now an 8" Sch 40 pipe has an inside diameter of 7.981"

BUT, as I mentioned you are already at a fairly high velocity so I would go with the next larger size pipe - that is a 10" Sch. 40 to lower the velocity and keep pressure drops down.

DISCLAIMER - this is just an example using Schedule 40 pipe - you did not mention any pressures so you may need a thicker pipe.

But the velocity/area/flow calculation would remain the same, just with different dimensions.

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Re: equivalent pipe diameter

08/30/2008 10:19 AM

Good morning Guest, very good answer. How do you input those superscripts? Also, do you happen to know of a website that has a chart for large diameter steel pipe? Thx. The one I have only goes up to 8", sch 10, 40, 80, & 160.

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Re: equivalent pipe diameter

08/30/2008 12:21 PM

Here are a couple web pages with larger dimensions (and if you search around Google there are many more)

http://www.pipingdesigners.com/downloads/pipechart.htm

http://www.allsteelpipe.com/Pipe-Dimensions-Weights-Chart.pdf

http://www.magellanmetals.com/pipechart.html

The super/subscripts are done with the buttons x2 / x2 beside the emoticon button. They are hidden until you highlight the text you want to alter.

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08/29/2008 1:55 AM

How is stated before the area of tie in header should be at least 4 times more than area of 4 inch pipe. In this way you get same down pressure drop.

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Re: equivalent pipe diameter

08/29/2008 10:51 PM

Generally, you use the square of each pipe's inside diameter. A 4" pipe is 16 when squared. That times 4 pipes gives you 64. The square of an 8" inside diameter pipe is 64, so that is the minimum size you would need. As stated earlier, if your velocity is greater and you have many turns in your system, then you need a larger diameter inside. The next larger size is 10".

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Re: equivalent pipe diameter

08/30/2008 5:59 AM

Schedule 40 pipe of minimum 8 inch. dia will cause some pressure rise so to be on the safrer side as the fluid velocity seems a bit high. So selecting a 10 inch. 40 schedule pipe seems to be an ideal pick.

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Re: equivalent pipe diameter

09/07/2008 8:01 AM

I am connecting four 4" pipes coming out from four different heat exchangers into a single . what will be the safe header size? flow rate from each pipe will be 140 cmh. All connections are of MS pipe.

firt compute area of four 4" pipe:

A= 4 x .785 x 4 x 4 = 50.24 sq. in.

next compute diameter of header:

A = .785 x D x D

diameter of header = 8 in.

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