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Trojan horse Trojan/Dldr.Small.bbn

09/03/2008 7:04 AM

Hi all who may be able to help?

Small.bbn¤trojan¤Is the Trojan horse Trojan/Dldr.Small.bbn

This is part of the file name of a Trojan Horse and keeps popping up and slows my computer down and interferes with things. It may also be the reason my screen turns completely black for a second only, every 20 minutes or so.

I have found the infected files, and because I have one Registry place empty, I do not want to delete more files that could screw things up completely!

These are the names of the files. Three of which seem to be notepad entries:

1) [S3kg.C - notepad]........... 2) [S3fg.C - Notepad]..........

3) [S370.C - Notepad]........... 4) [aaw7boot.cmd]

The first three consist of lots of tiny squares interspaced with all kinds of foriegn and 'English' letters and figures. I can copy and paste part or all of one here if it would help? The last file (aaw.....) opens for a split second only, and I cannot read it.

Is it OK to paste the full name of the virus, including 'path name' here, or will that spread the infection? These files seem to be part of WINDOWS system files.

Can you help please?

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09/03/2008 7:22 AM

Please run virus and spam software. They will find and clean up this stuff efficiently. There is no point to trying to self-diagnose these files. There are thousands out there with new ones each day.

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09/03/2008 4:56 PM

Hello eriew:

I run each, one at a time and really can't figure why I keep getting Trojans, which is why I thought they may originate from my own machine.

appreciate your reply. The 'cleaners I use are: Ad-Aware 2007/Ad-Watch 2007; Spyware Doctor combining Antivirus; Regcure, with all these fully up to date.

Prior to downloading Spyware Doctor/Antivirus, I used Kaspersky Antivirus, then AVAST!.

Having recently had serious Trojan and virus Infection, I could not understand how the same Trojan was repeatedly turning up after running Ad-Aware, so decided to look deeper to see if there was any hidden files. The one that keeps coming almost every-time I clean in a Trojan called [ExtendedEngine] (part of this Trojan I pasted in my original post).

My machine keeps freezing every few minutes. I need it at the moment because I am looking for another flat, which has to be in the next three weeks. So I can't afford to totally reinstall Windows. In case I get it wrong.

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09/04/2008 9:58 AM

Trojans and spyware and adware often times write themselves to your registry.

After running your anti-spyware programs, it will remove the intruder from your RAM but not the registry and as a result will come back each time you reboot your computer.

To resolve this you have to run your computer in Safe Mode. This will allow you to operate your computer using the minimum amount of resources needed to run your computer and you can access and remove unwanted programs from your registry.

You can google any trojan or virus and get all kinds of information on how to remove them.

Sometimes you might get a false trojan and some outfit will try to sell you a remover to get rid of it and they happen to be the only ones that can get the trojan. Be mindful of those scams.

If your anti-spyware, anti-virus programs aren't picking it up, maybe your list needs updating or maybe they need to update theirs. Make a copy of your registry of the infected files and send it to them. There happens to be a site that takes you through the process, I don't remember what it is called but I'm sure someone on this forum knows and can fill you in on it.

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09/04/2008 12:28 PM

That's the site I put the link to!

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09/04/2008 1:09 PM

Yes, Hijackthis.

Thank you. I didn't have time to read all the posts.

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09/04/2008 7:10 PM

Hello Janissaries:

I have run in safe mode, but cannot get the by pressing F8 or similar. That was a week ago.

I have since gone deeper and found some files that are said to be nasty. That is the ones above written as notepad. I now have un-installed the Ad-Aware anti spyware. I have got rid of all the links I can find to the anti-spyware I un-installed. Though I was surprised the RegCure did not find the links I had made of the anti-spyware in the menus and start menu. I have deleted all these now.

I downloaded Spyware Doctor a week ago and, this is combined with antivirus. So I will now get into safe mode and run the Spyware Doctor and RegCure.

I actually found the files I typed in bold at the start of my thread, after either Spyware Dr or RegCure listed them. That was yesterday-Thursday 04/09/08.

I knew I had to go into safe mode but was never sure why. Your explanation help, thanks. You're a real helpful lot on here you know! Thanks.

Lastly I often forget to log-off so if it appears I am on-line I may not be, and in fact may be running the cleaning tools so cannot get on line. So sorry about that.

It will be interesting to note if the safe mode clean will find the files I mention above? I will find out in a few hours.

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09/05/2008 10:30 AM

Just another note:

Windows XP has you identified as a server by default. You might want to turn that feature off to be less susceptible to virus attacks, especially if you leave your computer on all the time.

I was told once how to do but it wasn't so much the focus of conversation or an issue at the time for me to remember how it was done.

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09/03/2008 4:52 PM

Hello BB, I got stuck with a Trojan a few months back and found the people at this site very helpful!

http://www.webuser.co.uk/forums/postlist.php/Cat/0/Board/hijackthis

follow their instructions and your machine will be back on the straight and narrow! Good luck mate!

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09/03/2008 10:42 PM

Hello Mr. Truman Brain:

I have just found this, which was classed as a very high critical threat:[Flooder.Java.NewsAgent.F] which was a Hijacker.

I am hoping it was my stupidity in not RECONFIGURING the Spyware Dr/antivirus combined app, after I had put my machine into 'safe mode' to try and find all the threats I might have. Anyway I have now configured Spyware Dr/antivirus combined app and I can now use the computer..............Don't know how long it will last mind!!!

With the Flooder....... I googled it and it has lots of aliases. Most nothing like the previous, if you see what I mean. It came out in Feb 2008, thats just in case anyone may be reading this .....to help them!

The Trojan I mention in my original post on this thread was a proper Trojan and I did not paste it's full name as I was not sure if it could reinfect from that full name, you know? The Flooder was in a Ahead\Nero Dr.web.dll.

Thanks for your kind words I will now run other software to see if I can find anything else............I hope not, but is is getting a real nuisance. I wish I could find the hole they are sliping through!

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09/07/2008 8:37 AM

Hello Mr. Truman Brain:

hope you are fine?

I have run, and run, and run the RegCure and Spyware Doctor. Though I know roughly where the files listed above S3kg.C - notepad etc, but I am still looking for them as I have not seen them mentioned as one of the several viruses which have been cleaned up.

When I was looking for and cleaning up any files I copied from the web, I found a couple which were related to a virus starting aarw..........which was almost the same as the Ad-Aware 2007 app name.

I don't know if I did right but, I brought the page up on screen and using the mouse, CUT short bits of the virus name to try not to spread it on my machine again. As I did this the whole picture changed on screen and it went back to a basic view. It was as if I had restored it. Seem to have lost quiet a lot of files from MY DOCUMENTS.

I again run the RegCure and Spyware Doctor several times. Then, re-configured the screen colours etc. The MENUS on the left of the screen have also altered and, instead of reaching the top of the screen they are only about two thirds up now.

On the plus side.......... I have not had a CRASH since everything altered. However my entire screen still goes black for about a second every now and then. It does not seem to stop anything working though.

This is what I do not understand:...............On RegCure after cleaning lots of times it tells me I have 2 EMPTY REG KEYS, and gives me the names of something that look like they are related as the KEYS are IDENTICAL.

THESE ARE THE DETAILS:

(1).......[\s-1-5-21-1482476501-1767777339-839522115-1003\Software\Microsoft\CTF\Assemblies]

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(2).......[\s-1-5-21-1482476501-1767777339-839522115-1003\Software\Microsoft\SAPI Layer]

Is there any way I can mend these empty REG KEYS? These empty keys cause other keys to empty and I have to use the RegCure every 30 minutes to mend everything. But it will not mend the two missing keys.

Many thanks to all who read this for the advice!!!

I will visit the site you and others recommend. But, am not sure what the CLEANER mentioned does? Can you tell me?

stay safe

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09/04/2008 9:13 AM

I would go through the msconfig to make sure you are not loading any programs not required or desired and full scan for viruses. Do a full disk clean up, remove cookies and temp internet files.

If you find it and remove it and it doesn't come back great.(Perhaps clean up your virus vault as well?) If not I would re-start the computer in safe mode and do a full scan.

I find that AVG 8.0 is a good free antivirus software that also will notify you of spyware.

If these don't work you can always physically remove the hard drive that has the problems and put it into another machine as a slave and do a full scan on the drive itself. I have never yet had to resort to this to remove viruses but I hear it is the best way to make sure everything is clean.

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09/05/2008 2:06 PM

Hello GroovyCBR:

Firstly, a general thank you to all as all suggestions were helpful!

I have been working all day using all the cleaning apps I have. I have dumped an anti-spyware app as I have one in Spyware Doctor.antivirus.

I do not pretend to be an expert in using the safe mode but, I did my best. And can always go back into safe mode when and if I need to.

Before I started I got rid of cookies, and temp files and history. And some services and programs.

How can I clean up the virus vault without reinfecting?

I have two HDD and have in mind to change from the current one used for Windows, to the other and start using a different OS and browser. However, there is almost 50gigs to sort out and, I do not want to dump programs which may stop my computer working properly.

It has not worked this fast for a long time! I know I have only been using it for an hour since the safe mode clean...........Lets hope it stay like this. I still have in mind to get rid of the files above, which were said to be critical, but want to leave things as they are for a couple of days as I have a lot of work to do, and, do not want to screw things up!

The four files I list above have still not been found by the apps I have. So I will try the 'cleaner' as mentioned by another poster, and please forgive me for not remembering your name.........................I am going to bed now so any other replies will be tomorrow. Thanks once again to all!! I do not think I am hope and dry yet but say, halfway there.

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PS> Do you think I should stop using the phrase 'stay safe'? Doesn't work for does it?

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09/06/2008 2:19 AM

Hey BB,

Use what ever make you feel good! If it's right for you then it's right for me! Glad to hear your machine is feelin a little better!

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09/08/2008 6:51 AM

Good to hear that your machine is running better now.

It only takes one click to make a hair pulling mess, or a wife, or a son or visiting nephew :)

With AVG I know I have a separate folder where the virus vault is. I have the option to empty the vault of these with a simple click.

I have found that often some of the ad-ware/spyware contain some annoying programs and spyware itself, so when you find something that works you gotta stick with it. Good to hear it is working for you now.

Someone also mentioned a tip about not leaving your machine as a server machine or something along those lines. Might be something to consider.

I myself know just enough to get in and out of most trouble, no wiz myself either.

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09/08/2008 8:21 AM

Hello GroovyCBR:

I hope you are fine, and thanks for the post.

I too relied on Kaspersky and it worked fine for about three years. Then it did not spot a Trojan and, one thing led to another and I had several viruses and three or more Trojans.

I think I will give AVG a try. I was trying AVAST! after a recommendation but, it just did not see nasty stuff I knew I had. So that went in the bin!

My machine is still not "A1" but, it is working better than it was.

The problem I still have from time to time is, it freezes on me.

I need the computer for a job for the next six months, and what I have done has helped. But I know the 'missing' Registry file is causing problems.

What I may do is use it for now as it is, mainly for email, and then start copying everything I want to either an external HDD, or to a partition on my other drive 'E' or 'F'. This is a 200gig HDD split in two. when I have saved all I want I will completely clean and wipe drive 'C' and install Fire-fox. Or I may reinstall XP, and just use a basic set-up, see how that goes and I may then either get rid of XP altogether and replace it with Fire-fox.

I found it really frustrating that after I spent about 16 hours, on yet another 'cleaning bout', I clicked the 'connect' icon for the ISP and it froze! AAAARRRRHHHH!!!!

However, going in and out of safe mode I have learned some stuff I did not know, so theres a little plus!

I seem to get a lot of runtime errors though. Can't figure them out and it slows my web work down a lot.

I appreciate your kind post, thank you. I have a problem with my memory and can't recall what I have done as I go through a sequence of things, you know? Very annoying.

stay safe

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09/08/2008 8:29 AM

AVG is a good programme (as is Kaspersky) but, as I said in post #6, anti-virus programmes will not always find trojans, that is why you need a dedicated trojan hunter.

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09/08/2008 8:52 AM

+1 on trying other Anti virus software if you are still having issues. I used to Use Norton before. I bought the software installed it and it's army of other memory hogging glitchy software and my computer ran even worse then when it had no AV software.

I did a scan of my comp (when I had Norton) using another software and found several viruses that managed to elude the Norton. I have also noticed this on Symantic's website scan they offer. I have used it to scan an infected computer and came back with no virus results. I loaded the free AVG into it and found 3 trojans and a slew of other things missed by this premium software I had purchased.

Registry issues get tricky. You really have to know what you are doing in there or you can seriously mess up your operating system.

Which programs are you getting runtime errors on? Internet Exploder? Try to DL the latest version or use another stable browser? Have the latest Winblows updates?

Have you used the MSconfig cmd in Dos prompt to clean up the Services and Startup sequence and reduce the ammount of software loaded? If you don't know what the program listed does then do a search for it. http://www.processlibrary.com/ will tell you what the program does, if it is optional or critical and even identifies some potential threats. I always do this as it helps IMO and speeds the computer up. (After all I don't need my computer to load every program I rarely use, I keep it so it just loads the requirements to operate)

What sort of internet do you have? We have 2 way wireless and it has been glitchy lately. The ISP claims it is bluetooth/wifi conflicts. (This was after he said it was hardware related on his end, then the phone companies fault, then my fault as he claimed I had a virus that wrecked havoc on his entire network, then it was my router's fault (after I proved my computer was clean), now he seems to have discovered the problem after I went out and bought a new router.

If you have a wireless router and don't have wireless connections in the home then you might want to disable the wireless aspect of it. I have seen someone in a vehicle outside my home with a laptop in his vehicle surfing... I stopped to see what he was doing and he said he noticed there was a wirelss network there and asked if it was mine LOL Needless to say it has been disabled ever since.

If you need the wireless make sure you got some security for it.

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09/08/2008 4:14 PM

Hello GroovyCBR:

Wow! Where to start?

I too used Norton for a couple of years and it found hardly any major virus/Trojan, so I thought it was working......as you do?

Then about two years ago I got a really nasty Trojan which took about three months to sort. It was then I got Kaspersky. It was very good but it failed to find the one Trojan several weeks ago that brought my machine to a standstill for about two weeks. And I think I am living with the damage done then..............

I have not looked at AVG at all. But have read a lot of good things!

I understand what you mean with regards to Registry, which is why I am reluctant to go anywhere near it. I have seen where people claim you should not worry and list all the digits and quigglely bit it takes to write the Reg. But, they do not have a memory problem!.

The runtime errors are when I visit sites like CR4. But, seem to be more frequent on some kind of sites than others. I do not do porn! I notice that house sellers sites seem to get the most errors. I just do not understand this particular subject. But, then I have not had time or the chance to read much about these types of errors. However, I have pasted a whole list of these errors and sent it to my email. I aint have time to view them yet.

It is explorer where the errors appear because it is the only browser I have used.

I have explorer 7. That is the latest isn't it? I have all the latest 'windblows' critical updates. Not sure what others I may need other than the critical ones, or, the ones which are downloaded auto.

I am still finding my way in safe mode. Where would I find the DOS? I have gone through Services and start up and turned off some things. I actually turned off too many items and could not get on-line. But, that is sorted now. I will keep the process library handy!

Re: Internet.............I have a wired 500Kbps D-Link DS 200. But have just upgraded to a 5Mbps. It has a router/modem wired/wireless, you can choose. But I have not used that yet. When I start to use it I want to set up the safety stuff to stop other finding the signal. I know how to do that as I have done it twice before. I will probably have it wired though. I Have had two other wireless modem routers and both have failed. It was a bloody hard thing to figure quiet why I was not able to get on-line. But now I know what to look out for.

ISP's will get away with whatever they can! It is always someone Else's fault right? Thats why I think it best to go with BT or SKY. ............Knowone to blame!!!!!!!

Having said that I use freedom2surf.com.

Thanks for your help friend................

stay safe

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09/09/2008 4:56 AM

My ISP recently advised me of this accessory from BT, they were crowing because they are the 1st people to sell it. It's an additional line filter that fits to the BT master socket, you can fit it yourself & they claim that you will see an appreciable increase in the speed of your broadband connection. Looking elsewhere I have seen that BT will fit it for £50 but will refund this if you don't get a 30% increase in speed.

I don't actually know anyone who can verify the improvement & I can't try it myself as I don't have the master socket it fits to but at £15 maybe it's worth a go.

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09/10/2008 6:42 AM

Hello Nigh,

thank you for the BT thing. I am not too worried at the moment about the speed I get but, have copied all posts here to remind me.

I went into the 'System Configuration Utility'. I cannot seem to get into safe mode from the 'F8' or any others. Is the Utility the same as 'safe mode?

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09/10/2008 6:59 AM

System utility is not the same as safe mode. System utility lets you select what you want to run when you next restart the computer, safe mode starts with the minimum drivers & applications.

Are you holding the F8 key whilst your PC restarts, that usually does it but some PCs read this as a stuck key & get all upset. In this case you have to keep tapping the F8 key as the PC restarts. If this fails, reboot normally & windows may recognise that you failed to get into safe mode & give you the options screen.

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09/10/2008 7:12 AM

I could be wrong but I think some computers F5 will work too? (to initiate safe mode) (must be depressed and held after restarting computer as it boots)

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09/10/2008 10:35 PM

Hello GroovyCBR:

Thanks for the post.............................I have read the way to get into safe mode as the computer starts is, to keep pressing F12. In your post you say to hold the F5 button down. I have not tried the 'holding down' bit yet but, will do, thank you.

Now, can you please shoot me as I am a danger to others but, especially myself!!......

The reason...........I went to find the Windows/Microsoft update site. And, I clicked on a site that was masquerading as the windows/Microsoft site.

The symptoms were the RegCure said faults found - 2, faults mended - 16 ! Then I lost my Microsoft email account, and the screen or desktop went into 'classic'.

Spyware Doctor found what I think is all of the problem bits which were screwing my machine up from the Registry. And also certain files disappeared from the desktop, like My Computer and My Documents, and the trash bin was on the right side of the screen............away from all the other icons.

I knew there was something wrong and, did a restore, which actually worked!!!!

The restore got me back my email account and replaced the missing icons on the desktop.................

I have yet to visit the site which explains what things do and why. Can't recall the name sorry. But it was something like fixit?

I have run RegCure and Spyware Doctor and I intend to get AVG but, have not got it yet.

It seems to be running fine at the moment..........fingers crossed!!!

I have changed the theme to green, so I can see straight away if something changes. It has changed, or sort of 'flipped' in the passed and still came back on with the same theme I usually have which is the 'silver' one. Now I have the green XP theme, is helped me to see and confirm problems when they happened.

Thanks for your help..............

stay safe

babybear

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09/11/2008 6:30 AM

lol perhaps you need something with good internet security

At least your system restore worked for you.

An easy way to make sure you are updating thru winblows... click Tools on IE7 and midway down you will see Windows Update. Never click on a pop up even if it looks from a legit site as most legit companies won't use such software (Popups).

Good luck!

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09/04/2008 9:14 AM

Anti-virus, malware & ad-ware software won't always find trojans & root-kits, you need to use a dedicated programme like The Cleaner.

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09/07/2008 8:48 AM

Hello Nigh,

I thought as you were kind enough to mention the cleaner program I should write and thank you OK? What does this program do? Can you tell me?

Please read the stuff I wrote to mr brain (approx name), sorry mr brain.

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09/08/2008 4:48 AM

babybear,

The Cleaner works like other anti-spy & anti-virus programmes but it is configured to look specifically for trojans which a lot of other programmes will not find. I run it every few weeks on my home PC, it's a bit slow in operation & needs to re-start after updating but I've been using it ever since I had a problem some time ago that got through the firewall, anti-virus & anti-spy software I had at the time. The Cleaner found & fixed that problem & has been in my arsenal ever since.

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