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2 cycle motor on a 25 year old lawn boy push mower

09/05/2008 12:53 AM

I have cleaned the carb. etc. float level is ok. Motor will idle rough but will not spool up to op. revs.

Question ; after removing float bowl i noticed that the main jet had unscrewed itself down . ( plastic carb. body with metal jet screwed into plastic threads. )

My question is this ... do i screw the jet up until it is tight or do i set it at a certain level ? Common sense dictates that the jet would be seated and other adjusments would be done by the outside carb. adjusment screw ??

This old 2 stroker is an excellent lawn mower with lots of power and light weight .

My dad gave it to me a couple of years ago and it beats the hell out of the usuall heavy 4 strokers that are most common . Its half the weight , so what more can i say .

Any carb. help would be appreciated .

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Re: 2 cycle motor on a 25 year old lawn boy push mower

09/05/2008 3:37 AM

I'm guessing that maybe the jet is screwed in/out as a crude adjustment. Normally a jet would be nipped up tight and a needle adjusted...I'm guessing there's no needle?

I'd screw the jet home and try it, but count the half turns, so that you can return it to the original position if required.
Or maybe just try screwing it in a half turn at a time and testing.

If you have no joy I'm sure this forum will help you to race tune that sucker
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09/06/2008 3:41 AM

Back out 1-1/2 turns, rule of thumb.

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09/06/2008 5:07 AM

It is a supprise if your engine doesn't have a needle! That's what you move in the jet when you operate the throttle.

Normally, you can adjust the hight of the needle by placing (what I would refer to)circlip in the right groove nd the jet supposed to be screwed in tight.

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09/06/2008 10:15 AM

How can people who have never seen or worked on one of these offer advice? Having 'been there' with a faithful 25+year old LB 2 stroke-I understand. The jet needs to be screwed in tight. You adjust the fuel mixture by turning the screw/toothed wheel located ON TOP of the carburetor. Some 'legacy' float bowls have a water/trash drain on the bottom.

Try cleaning out the exhaust ports on the engine. Using the wrong oil will cause hard carbon formation that will quickly restrict the exhaust flow--resulting in low RPM's, low power, overheating. Then remove the carb and valve plate and either replace the reed valves or turn them over if not too badly warped. They tend to 'bend' open with use, which causes hard starting rough idle, low power. (Replacing old gaskets with new is required of course.)

Also examine the carb where the butterfly shaft goes through the body. The hole wears and allows air to by-pass the carb--hard starting, lean mixture,etc. Replacing the carb is sometimes not possible (availability.) One CAN drill out the carb body and install brass bushings, renewing the diameter. If the shaft is worn, one can either braze or solder fill and then file back to proper diameter to restore the close fit needed. I always retrofit felt 'seal washers' on the outside of the carb around the butterfly shaft to prevent dirty air ingestion and subsequent wear etc.

Do not overlook replacing the piston rings if compression is low. They are cheap, the work is trivial (after already removing exhaust pipe and carb/valve plate.)

These things will last forever if one uses proper lubricant, good fuel, and good air filter. The crank and its bearings, piston, and clyinder never wear out.

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09/06/2008 10:40 AM

How can people who have never seen or worked on one of these offer advice?

Hmmm... let me see...
Maybe 'cos I'm not stupid ...and I've worked on plenty of 2-strokes and have actually seen a carburetor before...also general engineering practices are often transferrable from one discipline to another.

Whilst your full and explicite post is excellent, as you obviously have the pertinent experience, I don't think you will find anything wrong in my post #1.

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09/06/2008 11:25 AM

That's a good answer Keith, but Del is correct, a 2 stroke is a 2 stroke.

I've had my LB for about 20 years, very lite and powerful. Unfortunately, while on vacation, one of the kids grabbed the wrong gas can.....

Good winter project. Can you still get parts for these?

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09/06/2008 4:42 PM

Thanks!

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09/06/2008 12:41 PM

Oooo...kitty got his fur up in a bunch! Soothe, Del, soothe - he didn't necessarily mean YOUR post...in fact, I'd just about bet he didn't. Here, relax with this:

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09/06/2008 12:57 PM

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09/06/2008 2:20 PM

The jet needs to be screwed in tight. You adjust the fuel mixture by turning the screw/toothed wheel located ON TOP of the carburetor. Some 'legacy' float bowls have a water/trash drain on the bottom.

Correct my post #2 is irrelevant Thanks for forthrightness. The following are relevant observations.

Then remove the carb and valve plate and either replace the reed valves or turn them over if not too badly warped. They tend to 'bend' open with use, which causes hard starting rough idle, low power.

My 25 year old lawn-boy 2-cycle doesn't have the reed valve as the reed valve was introduced upon a later model.

One CAN drill out the carb body and install brass bushings, renewing the diameter. If the shaft is worn, one can either braze or solder fill and then file back to proper diameter to restore the close fit needed. I always retrofit felt 'seal washers' on the outside of the carb around the butterfly shaft to prevent dirty air ingestion and subsequent wear etc.

One CAN and graphite impregnated nylon works better as it may act as a seal also.

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