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Chamfer Gages

09/24/2008 4:37 PM

I presently have a Starrett chamfer gage that we measure countersunk holes that goes from 90 to 127 degrees with a dial gage with .001 graduations. On the back of the dial there is a metal tag that states that the dial should read .01 when the gage is sitting on a flat surface. After doing so then it is possible to measure countersinks accurately, or at least we hope so. The problem that we are having that after the tip of this tool begins to wear a little bit then the presetting of the gage to the somewhat sharp begins to wear and create a deviation from the original state of the gage. Would really like to find a setting gage of some kind that allows for the body of the gage to make contact with a countersink of KNOWN SIZE. For example if I had a block that has a 90 degree countersink in it that measures exactly .350 that I can preset the gage to. Does anyone make a gage(standard) that would allow this to happen? I am sure that there might be something available to solve this dilemma. Thanks for the help.

Tim

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Re: Chamfer Gages

09/25/2008 4:44 AM

How accurately do you need to measure the countersink? We only need to measure fairly small countersinks but we use a magnifying loupe with a graduated scale. These will resolve 0.1mm but you can interpolate 0.05mm. You could measure a countersink with this then set your gauge to match.

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Re: Chamfer Gages

09/25/2008 8:09 AM

Thanks for the response. The size range of what we normally measure with the gage is between .120 and .240. Our customer requires +/-.005 on the size and we must take into account that the surface wil get timesaved after machining. Would be very interested in learning more about the method that you described.

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Re: Chamfer Gages

09/25/2008 8:29 AM

Could you have sets of functional go/not go gages made for the sizes in question?

What do you mean "that the surface wil get timesaved after machining?"

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Re: Chamfer Gages

09/25/2008 8:40 AM

The manufacturer of the gage should be able to supply you with standards to verify the gage while it is in use. Wear on the end of the tool shouldn't be a big factor as this part of the tool is not generally contacting the work. However, if you need a tool to verify your gage while in use, you can use a ring gage that has been surface ground to remove any chamfer. The chamfer gage should read the diameter of the ring. If not you need to send your chamfer gage for repiar/rebuild.

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Re: Chamfer Gages

09/25/2008 10:02 AM

Thanks for the replys. We use a timesaver for finish purposes. Basically our parts are flat aluminum .25 x .75 x 9.25 and the timesaver uses a conveyor belt that moves horizontally and while part is in motion there is a sanding belt being spun vertically and it surfaces the top of the part. Almost like a surface grinder but the part itself moves, usually in a multi part fixture. I have used pin gages to optically compare against what the chamfer gage reads. This method is ok, but for the average person on the floor running the parts its not always a viable process. The way that the manufacturer sets the gage is that you push the tool all the way down and while bottomed out the gage should read approx .010 for the diameter. I agree with you as far as the tip of the tool has no bearing on the size of the chamfer. This is why I would like to have a static style gage. The ring gage idea definitely sounds like a good one.

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Re: Chamfer Gages

09/26/2008 7:24 AM

Find a chamfer gage with carbide tips they will last alot longer.

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