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Loading OS on Toshiba TE2100 Laptop

10/03/2008 11:15 AM

Hello all,

I know this is sort of a basic question in some ways, but this is something I do not have occasion to do very often.

I have a Toshiba TE2100 laptop with a bad Hard drive. I need to format and load an OS (XP Pro) on a new (blank) drive so I can use it for something other than a paperweight.

It has a functional CD/DVD drive, and USB ports, etc. but otherwise I'm starting from scratch.

I have done hard drive formats and system loads in the past (years ago), so I have a general idea of how to do it, but not on today's systems with no floppy drives, etc. And I'm not sure how to proceed on a laptop in any event.

I assume what is needed is a bootable CD with FDISK, Format, etc. but I have no idea how to proceed.

Any information would be much appreciated.

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Ron

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Re: Loading OS on Toshiba TE2100 laptop

10/03/2008 11:37 AM

During the process of XP installation launched form CD/DVD you will be offered to make disk partitioning and its formating.

You said your HD is bad. I would suggest you to use FAT32.

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10/03/2008 12:06 PM

Caramba,

Thanks for the response, but I need to add some information and clear up a point.

I am installing a new blank hard drive I purchased for the purpose, and the install program (XP Pro) does not recognize the hard disk when it attempts the install. The old disk is now useful only as a paperweight. I did slip the new drive into a USB adapter to see if it is functional, and I'm able to write and read files from the drive. Now I need to install it into the laptop, format it, and install XP.

From past experience, I assume I need to format the new drive and run FDISK, or whatever is the equivalent operation is these days, so the system will recognize the new hard disk.

By the way, isn't there a new format standard reccommended for use with XP? I'm a bit fuzzy on the details, but I seem to remember reading an article on the subject, and FAT(16 and 32) seems to be obsolete or at least not reccommended for WinXP.

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10/03/2008 12:26 PM

With XP is recommended to use NTFS, which I'm trying avoid even on new HD. It can't be partitioned by fdisk. Fdisk is actual now but it can be useful along with others old DOS commands only if your disk is fat32/16. That's why I'm applying Fat32. It give me chance to cope with any inevitable problems with disk afterwards. FDISK can remove NTFS partition though.

I'm supposing your BIOS does not recognize your new hard disk. WinXP installation program can install OS on absolutely blank disk (if it passed Bios test). Here's Partition Magic program which could format any disk using several standards.

nevertheless you could use fdisk command to make your partition as fat(do not forget make it as ACTIVE) then WinXP will offer you to reformat it as NTFS as you wish.

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10/03/2008 12:42 PM

Caramba,

Thanks for the information. I'll look for Partition magic on the web. I assume it comes with a method of booting the system so I can work on the Hard disk.

That is the main issue at this point. I do not have a floppy, so my only two boot options are the CD ROM drive or a USB port, neither of which I know how to implement. I've heard of booting the system from both a CD or USB, but have not tried either. I guess I'll have to experiment more, but most of my time goes to working with, not on my systems.

I'm a hardware engineer with enough software experience to be a bit less than dangerous, but I know when I should ask questions before tackling a problem out of my area of expertise.

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10/03/2008 1:00 PM

It's nothing, Ronz,

But I'm afraid here's a mess as your new hard drive is not recognized on low(BIOS) level. It should. Non the less, before rushing for Partition Magic or other stand alone programs i would advice you to use old Win98 CD, which I'm supposing you have. Interrupt process of installation and use fdisk and format command to handle your new disk. If WinXP installer won't see your drive formatted this way I think it wouldn't see it if even there were placed native NTFS.

You could try out to install Win98 then upgrade one to XP. It won't take too much and file system will be upgraded the same way from FAT to NTFS. I always do that before to pay for additional software.

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10/03/2008 3:54 PM

Ron,

Correct me if I'm wrong but it appears that your initial problem is trying to boot from the XP cd/dvd.

When you turn on your computer one of the first messages you will see is to press a key to get into the BIOS settings. That key may be F1, Delete, or another depending on the BIOS. Once in the BIOS you need to find the entry for boot devices. It is probably currently set to a device that it doesn't understand (ie, your old hard drive).

Change the boot device to: cd/dvd first, then hard drive. You want the hard drive listed for when the loader wants to reboot to the hard drive.

Save your settings and exit out of the BIOS, and your computer will restart. At the appropriate time put the XP cd/dvd into the drive and the computer will boot from that cd/dvd drive. The loading program will guide you through any configuration, formatting and partitioning issues. It will very likely analyze and configure your new hard drive with no questions or prompting.

Lastly, I would highly recommend you NOT format to FAT16/32. NTSF is much better equipped to handle the large scale hard drives we use nowadays. FAT will likely not let you use the full capacity of your drive.

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10/04/2008 12:17 AM

I just went through that whole messy procedure. To my dismay I found out that XP is a one shot install. The disk provided by the computer dealer is actually a "recovery" disk but is not an original disk intended for installing OS to a new drive.

After much hunting I obtained a Bootable original CD that could install XP. However, Microsoft would not allow upgrades released since the date that particular CD was made. That in turn prevented me from loading several other programs.

Microsoft was able to detect the fact I had changed my hard drive. They were also able to detect I was now located someplace other than the area in which I resided when I first bought that computer and registered and validated the software. Keep in mind that I stil had the validation sticker and was entering that number. It was rejected and the install was incomplete.

Their recommended solution - buy a new copy of XP! Yeah right cost = USD $199.95

I got the computer going by going back to an old, old edition of DOS to access the FDISK program then wiping out all traces of NTFS etc. Then I installed W2k which did format the new hard drive and from that, I was able to upgrade to XP. Elapsed time more, than one day. My dealer now tells me that as of this spring Microsoft only allows complete new installs by going online with a fast link to the internet. New computers do not even have removable drives etc. This is obviously a move to stop any sort of illigal copying but it sure hurts legitimate users who must reload damaged computers in locations that do not have high speed internet access. Or users with sat links who pay by the data packet size, such as Ships at sea and research expeditions.

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Re: Loading OS on Toshiba TE2100 laptop

10/04/2008 4:53 AM

At his 2nd post Ronz has written:"...and the install program (XP Pro) does not recognize the hard disk when it attempts the install..." Therefore laptop CD was already bootable. It's used to be as factory default BIOS boot mode.

What said Elniv, is a good way to cope with problem and it coincides with my point of view. I voted for his post. Yes Win2k is more likely to find than old win98 installation CD.

Yes, Fat16 can't but Fat32 quite good for handling big drives. Yes NTFS is newer and I really enjoyed that FS when I used my lovely NT4 at the time. Now I can only say that newer doesn't mean better.

regards, caramba

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