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Load Calculation for 2-phase and 3-phase equipment

10/14/2008 10:20 AM

I am trying to estimate electrical load (kVA) from a panel schedule for lighting, devices and equipment (The purpose is to help allocate costs between landlord and tenant for the electrical system).

I would like to know the basic calculation for 3-phase and 2-phase equipment.

For 3-phase equipment (such as an RTU), do I muliply voltage x amperage x sqrt. 3 x 3(since there are three breaker poles being used). For 2-phase devices (such as a receptacle for a welding machine) do I multiply voltage x amperage x 2(since there are two breaker poles used).

I know there may be a power factor involved in the calculation but I am ignoring that since I don't know it, and also I am aware I have to divide VA by 1000 to get kVA. Also my panels are 120/208V in case that information is important.

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Re: Load Calculation for 2-phase and 3-phase equipment

10/14/2008 11:37 AM

1- P (3phase)=3Vph x Iph x PF=1.73Vl x Iph x PF

2- P(1phase)=Vph x Iph x PF

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Re: Load Calculation for 2-phase and 3-phase equipment

10/14/2008 11:54 AM

Hi Guest;

1. 3 Phase Apparent Power "S" (VA) = 3 x V phase x I phase = sqrt. 3 x V line x I line

2. 2 Phase Apparent Power "S" (VA) = 2 x V phase x I phase

Phase wise, its 3 single phases and 2 single phases.

Phase voltage is voltage between one phase and neutral.

Line voltage is voltage between one line and another (with respect to the other line).

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Re: Load Calculation for 2-phase and 3-phase equipment

10/15/2008 3:05 AM

You have to consider the power factor for a 3 phase calculation. If you don't know the power factor then a good ball park figure to use is 0.6.

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Re: Load Calculation for 2-phase and 3-phase equipment

10/15/2008 7:45 AM

Hi Andy,

Yes power factor must be considered for kW loading at that instant of voltage and current measurement.

For 3 phase system, P = sqrt. 3 x V line x I line X Cos(ø)

Where, Apparent Power "S" (VA) = sqrt. 3 x V line x I line.

As, Power (w) = S x P.F,

From which one can determine the kW loading and the kVA loading. Where, with some power utilities, the maximum billing on power is focused on the kVA. From which injecting reactive power, kVAR, will correct power factor reducing the kVA loading, and savings on money. This is applicable to large facilities and factories.

Anyway, cheers!

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