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thermo sypon

10/23/2008 10:17 AM

hi all I am looking for a formular to work out the velocity in a thermosyphon system I found it on another forum before but cant find it now.

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10/28/2008 3:17 AM

The velocity of a Thermo Syphon system that describes which property of the system? Your need is yet to be clearly defined. Try restating it and may be you can be helped.

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10/29/2008 2:34 AM

ok maby I should explane the aplication I am wanting to build a solar updraft tower and am trying to figure out what my air speed will be through the system so I can desighn the terbine acordingly

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10/31/2008 11:04 AM

thermosyphon is not exactly related to velocity, its rated to pressure drop, which is related to velocity. You need to do the static hydraulics of your system. This will involve know the desity of the air at both extremes of hot and cold.

Once you know your differntial pressures, you know the rate of mass of the fluid being heated, so you select a line size that will be large enough that the friction loss in the line doesn't exceed the available pressure drop.

Good luck, you'll need a meter tower to get enough energy to run a house

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10/31/2008 9:19 PM

I must admit that you have a very interesting conceptual application of the Thermosyphon science on the Solar Updraft technology.

That said, I believe that the air motion is due to Bouyancy Effects of the Natural Convection due to the Collector Heating effects and not Pressure Differential as is the case with standard thermosyphon analysis. The very small upward slant of the Collector towards the tower means that you can solve the fluid dynamic equations with a first order approximation of radial flow and improve on the solution with Pertubation Analysis. The combination of the simplified first approximation flow equation and the heat/thermal equation should give you the mass flow into the tower; then solve the flow through the tower - hopefully circular - based on the mass flowrate and that should be the answer you want.

I think that you should be able to get a good Tower Updraft velocity to run a mini-turbine.

I hope that this is helpful; and Goodluck

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