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tubing strength

11/02/2008 7:41 PM

Looking for an authoritative reference for strength of .035" and .049" wall 5052-0 and 6061-0 tubing.

Have looked thru MIL-HDBK-5, Bruhn, AC-43-13 nothing

Do find tables in "Welding Aluminum Theory and Practice" by the Aluminum Association it shows 5052-0 has having a substantially higher; Ultimate, yield, and fatigue strength in the "0" condition. Not sure if this is authoritative though.

Need some authoritative proof for an FAA proposal, and myself for that matter, want to replace 6061-0 tubing with 5052-0 tubing. Tubing will be welded to 356 casting. Operating pressure is 20 psi, tubing diameter is .625"

Thanks in advance for any guidance

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Re: tubing strength

11/02/2008 9:03 PM

I checked through:

ASME Sec II Part D
ASME B31.3
Aluminum Design Manual

But it's a shame - they didn't have 6061-0, however, I did come across it in ASM Metals Handbook Vol 2:

5052-0 : Tensile - 28 ksi; Yield - 13 ksi; Fatigue - 16 ksi
6061-0 : Tensile - 18 ksi; Yield - 8 ksi; Fatigue - not listed

If you need more authoritative answers - I would recommended getting mill test certificates.

As for the strength of tubing at 20 psi - Yes, there will be plenty of strength for, even the worst case, 0.625" dia - 0.035" wall.

But if you need to assert that - I would recommend ASME B31.3

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Re: tubing strength

11/02/2008 11:53 PM

Hi, Guest here again -

I got thinking and digging some more, mainly because I don't deal with aluminum that much - and came up with a couple more things.

Depending on which specification you go with:

According to ASTM B210:

5052-0 has a Tensile Strength, min 25.0 ksi; max 35.0 ksi - Yield min 10.0 ksi
6061-0 has a Tensile Strength, max 22.0 ksi - Yield max 14.0 ksi

And then I came across the other specifications from AMS, namely 4071 & 4080 - I have never come across those before so I don't know anything about them.

So you could look into obtaining those specs.

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Re: tubing strength

11/03/2008 12:01 AM

Lastly -

Those strengths are for room temperature, they would, of course, be different for elevated/lower temperatures.

I thought of another issue, too ....... bending. Of course when you bend tubing you stretch it and will get a thinner wall, however, according to ASME B31.3 you only need approx. 0.002" for that pressure.

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Re: tubing strength

11/04/2008 7:06 PM

Hi Guest

Thanks for the leads trying to get the AMS specs

I know either material is strong enough especially at room temp where they will be.

Just getting all the "proof" for the feds.

Thanks again

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