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contact with chief chad fuhrmannHi, Chief Chad,

11/17/2008 4:43 AM

Hi, Chief Chad,

As I read your mail on Friday 11.6 morning I became really excited!

I thought that possibly you might be interested in my idea. I hope that you are the right man at the right time to promote my idea of using wind energy to produce hydrogen as an alternative renewable fuel.

Last year I thought that a sails catamaran could drive a turbo generator by its motion in the ocean's water [there would be the motion of the water relative to the catamaran's motion]. The electric power would be used to separate water into hydrogen through electrolysis. The hydrogen would be stored using new technologies, as car fuel.

As I begun to learn more about my idea I found that 1982 a person named Robert Salomon patented this idea, but it wasn't realized, perhaps because at this time fuel was cheap and nobody talked about the greenhouse effect!

But , a few month ago my partner found that a person named Moshe Meller patented the same idea, but I failed to find out what happened to his invention, nor did I succeed in contacting him.

And- I have an idea that might greatly improve the whole system.

I have 2 different ideas to use the waves energy, it seems to me important, because when it gets stormy, the storm will create high waves with lot of kinetic energy! Well, I have 2 friends that help me with advices, both of them are aerodynamic engineers so their maritime knowledge and experience is more theoretical. To promote my idea, a person like you is needed!

The success of the idea depends if there will be a huge fleet of such ships, each with minimum 10000 square m'. The bigger -the better!, I thought that there is no real problem to enlarge a catamaran about 200 m' length and about 50 m' distance between the 2 hulls but they told me that enlarging that much requires a profound research, and they claim that no investors will be ready to invest in r&d if there is an option for buying a ship " from the shelf".

I think that designing a new huge catamaran is necessary ,because it may change the whole feasibility calculation!, and most important of all : My friends claim that combining 2 different technologies on one hydrogen producing ship will be inefficient ,even harmful, but since I found not only the technology for hydrogen production ,but I offer a revolutionary way to create enlarged and enforced structures using new materials I think that it might double the feasibility for the whole project!

What do you think - will this challenge you, even though it isn't exactly what you were talking about?

Azi [azriel nativ]

my e-mail is: vitaniza@nir-david.org.il

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Re: contact with chief chad fuhrmannHi, Chief Chad,

11/17/2008 7:46 AM

Why don't use directly the wind via a wind mill stationary in a place where it will not disturb the circulation of ships? You idea although correct will inerfere with other mobile elements at see and this is a negative aspect. From an other point of viex the investment for such huge catamarans is bigger than the one for static wind turbines so that an economical limitaion appears.

With respect to thye waves energy in the UK they alreeady test 2 generator types: a under see water turbine and an articulated "snake" type generatot whose parts move with respect to each other due to the waves. If your ideas go into same direction better try to find new ones.

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Re: contact with chief chad fuhrmannHi, Chief Chad,

11/19/2008 2:57 AM

To Guru

You are not the first one to ask this question,and there are several answers:

first:There isn't much free land for wind turbines, especially in windy regions.

Second:I am sure that if those catamarans will be manufatured in mass production, the costs can be reduced very much, since the design includes a method that will eliminate the necessity of the masts, so there is a good reason to think that a "floating huge sail" connected to a water turbine will be cheaper than a huge wind turbine mounted on a stationary tower!

Third: The catamaran fleet will be able to move in the ocean where storms are expected to come. [ As you know,the modern weather forecast technology can predict where and when storms will be few days ahead!

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Re: contact with chief chad fuhrmannHi, Chief Chad,

11/19/2008 9:12 PM

" I thought that there is no real problem to enlarge a catamaran about 200 m' length and about 50 m' distance between the 2 hulls but they told me that enlarging that much requires a profound research"

Longest catamarans I know of are about 39m inlength. "THEY" told you right .

milo

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