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How Do YOU Add "Compelling Value" To Your Employer As Engineering Professional?

11/19/2008 8:21 PM

"How to end the engineering skills shortage?" posted in the blog for industrial automation prompted this discussion. http://cr4.globalspec.com/blogentry/7404

Rather than look at the dire straits of the current "engineering employment market" and it's "causes," I'd like to know what you (we) have done / can do to keep our personal, professional, performance valued by our employers and society.

My view is that as engineers we have an implied obligation to serve (protect) society, an obligation arising from our special knowledge, and that obligation supersedes our duty to our employers. For example if something isn't safe, we need to stand up and take action. We need to act to protect, not be complicit.

So given this tension between our duty to serve protect Society, our obligation to serve our Employer, and enlightened self interest regarding our Personal Economies, (triaxial stresses anyone?) I propose the following:

What do engineers need to do better to demonstrate the value that we add to today's organizations?

Engineers must help our companies

1) "Intelligently manage risk"

2) "Continuously improve the quality and efficiency of the people and processes under our authority"

Asking "What can I do today that will make my company the most money ( or avoid the most unwarranted risk)?" is something that should be on every"salaryman's" mind, don't you think?

How do you demonstrate your "compelling value" to your employer?

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11/20/2008 4:50 AM

What would be the changes required if your suggestion were phrased as follows: What can I do today that will make my company the most money in a manner that avoids the most unwarranted risk?". However, that in reciprocity then asks what of "warranted risks"? what then does the word "warranted" and its opposite(?) mean in this context?

i first came across this issue something ago in college, and in that setting the question was to what does the engineer owe the over riding obligation - to society or to employer? Of course, implied in this consideration was the question I have just posed above as a complement of the rephrasal of your suggestion. The jury is still out on that? The fact is the answer is a matter of personal priority , or so we came to believe because we could not come to a consensus.

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11/21/2008 3:01 AM

Hello Milo,

I am feeling silly, give them one of these

I AM BOSS T-shirt YOU CAN ALSO BE BOSS

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11/21/2008 5:25 AM

Hi Milo,

I've enjoyed with your triaxial stresses comparison. Fortunately, human beings (at least most of us) aren't "solid rigid bodies" and our plasticity allows us to support multiaxial stresses in a better way.

Obviously to avoid breaking, a balance must be reached between the 3 tensions you've mentioned.

That doesn't means all tensions must be equal. I agree the first place is for serving Society (but not only engineers, anyway the degree of compromise should be parallel to the knowledge level).

The other two I think are intrinsically interrelated and a good relationship must exist if success is desired. One Employer which don't care about his employees cannot expect the employees care of the company.

I agree on what you say but maybe the situation in an engineering/consulting company the situation is slightly different because the ratio of engineers/total working force is much higher than in any manufacturing company. Here the main workforce are engineers.

There are some differences when engineers have managing duties and when are just "fresh flesh".

The solution is old, Ford, Benz, Siemens... were not bean-counters who looked just to immediate benefits hoping some government will bail out the company if things go hard.

The problem is that sometimes "organizations" seems to become deaf.

Sorry... I think this morning I forget to take my Prozac omelet

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11/21/2008 12:09 PM

Hello Kwetz:

What do you we are not stiff bodies? mine was.............oh sorry, can't mention that can I.......

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11/22/2008 10:57 AM

Hello babybear,

Generally speaking I'm not a stiff body. Maybe some small part of me and sometimes...

Have nice weekend

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11/22/2008 12:37 PM

Hello Kwetz:

Now I was trying ssooo hard (no pun intended) NOT to mention what you almost did! I-a-slap-a-your-wrist!

You have a great weekend as well!

What was it, Prozac omelete? Have to try one of them.

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11/24/2008 2:26 AM

Hello babybear,

Prozac is a trade name of "fluoxetine" a sort of inhibitor of some brain chemical reactions used in psychiatry as antidepressant.

I strongly recommend you not to try it!!!

It's a joke I use to say those days you see all things darker...

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11/24/2008 7:46 PM

Hello Kwetz:

I take a few mediccated prscribed drugs so know what 'Family. Prozan belongs

I have daily fits and have been taking prozan and lots of other similar drugs prescribed by my doctor. I mainly use them for getting to sleep, having said that, I would not advocate the taking of anything like it as it DDDDOOOOOEEEESSS65;;pSSSRRE-[0;polk,ETUEROedwsHIUDHOEIU affect me sometimes!!!!

Taake care...............

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11/21/2008 12:01 PM

Asking "What can I do today that will make my company the most money ( or avoid the most unwarranted risk)?" is something that should be on every"salaryman's" mind, don't you think?

I agree 100% and I should hope that is the compelling reason why we are engineers and scientists.

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11/21/2008 1:29 PM

Hello agua_doc:,

something that should be on every"salaryman's" mind, don't you think?

Perhaps so..........but, from my experience his mind is more likely to be on his pocket!. Unless he owns all or part of the company............

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11/21/2008 1:23 PM

In the simplistic short term, I have attempted to contribute increased value to the day-to-day activity in my new job, in the private sector, by creating some sort of Excel(R) spreadsheet application to as many of the repetitive work activities as I can think of. This has extended from draft time cards, time-miles reports, and other reporting forms to specific technical work-related applications.

Interestingly enough, my current boss appreciates that effort because it directly promotes work-productivity that he can see, and relate to, because his background is primarliy in business, not in engineering. On the other hand, my previous long-term career was in engineering for (the government) where such expediting efforts of mine were shunned and stifled because they contributed to productivity, rather than to job justification...

Nowadays, I REALLY appreciate the unanticipated and, at the time, painfull need to suddenly have to (seek alternate employment) from the latter to the former...

It's nice to be appreciated a little bit, for a change...

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