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How Does Water Pressure Affect Butterfly Valves?

12/10/2008 4:57 AM

Hello everyone

I'm guessing this might be a stupid question, but everyone has to ask one sooner or later and i'm going for sooner rather than later. So:

What effect does the water pressure in a pipe have on the opening and closing torque of a valve?

For instance I have a 400mm valve with an 85mm face to face distance and the pipe pressure is 10 Bar. The approximate value for the butterfly valve is 1000Nm...

Please help asap

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Re: How Does Water Pressure Affect Butterfly Valves?

12/10/2008 8:37 AM

If its a butterfly valve, its supposed to have no effect. Because butterfly valves are balanced for actuating torque in both sides of its plate. Even flow is suposed to be balanced.

What causes more problems in those valves are things like damaged or dirty bearings, bent shafts causing misalignments, and valve plate or sealing rings stucking in the sealing diameter.

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Re: How Does Water Pressure Affect Butterfly Valves?

12/11/2008 4:46 AM

Hi bhrescobar,

Absolute pressure doesn't affect too much the torque to actuate a butterfly valve but your statement "Even flow is supposed to be balanced" is not right. As valve disk is turning from closed position to open or viceversa, as the angle between disk and flow direction is changing, appears a hydrodynamic torque which helps or opposes to the disk movement.

The minimum required actuation torque, for a butterfly valve is the largest of the following values:

1. Seating/unseating torque , or

2. Maximum total dynamic torque during opening/closing stroke

The minimum torque that the valve stem and its connections to the disc and actuator should be able to withstand is called the maximum transmitted torque, and it is the larger of:

1. The required actuation torque defined above, or

2. The peak hydrodynamic torque.

Each of these torque values consists of several components. The calculation of each torque component depends on one or more of the following factors:

• Particular valve design

• Valve operating conditions: pressure, temperature, differential pressure, fluid media, and flow rate at various disc opening angles

• Valve installation and orientation in the piping system

• Hydraulic system characteristics

And take into account that if valve needs to be tight seated (no modulating/throttling service) differential pressure across the valve is important to calculate the seating torque needed.

Another aspect which affect the required torque is the disk type (symmetric, single, double or triple offset) and the relative position of disk and flow.

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12/11/2008 9:12 AM

Kwetz:

You got my vote for a GA. I'm just glad, now that I know all this, that I don't have to calculate it.

I'm also glad I didn't answer it, since I was thinking of a spring-loaded poppet valve . I would have really looked dumber than a stump for not reading the question.

Thanks for saving me, guys.

Mike

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Re: How Does Water Pressure Affect Butterfly Valves?

12/11/2008 9:50 AM

Dear Daniel,

BF valves are used for low heads and spherical valves are used for high head plants. The manufacturer designs the servomotor for operation of the BF and spherical valves considering the velocity of flow in the penstock in the worst condition. That is, the BF or spherical valve opens when the water velocity is zero but the valve has to close when the velocity of flow is much higher which has to be taken care during detailed Engineering. In your case, the diameter of the valve is small so there will not be much problem designing the valve to take care of abnormal situations

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12/11/2008 1:33 PM

i think considering this torque valve designer calculate the length of handle of valve and specially this type of valve has locking arrangement so that pressure of fluid will not make it open or close or its throttling.

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