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weight=hp and gearing questions

12/17/2008 11:33 AM

greetings- i am a lay inventor with an idea for a low tech mechanical electrical generator that would be useful in third world countries- i have no training in engineering and need some insights into a number of details before i can build a prototype- my idea involves an alternator which is powered by a heavy weight hanging in mid-air by a sprocket chain which is meshed with a sprocket/reduction gear complex centered above it that transforms the ft. lbs. of vertical gravity burdened weight into torque to turn the power shaft of the alternator- my questions are how many lbs. would this weight need to be to equal 2 hp which is what the alternator is rated for and what sort of gearing complex/ratio would the machine need to generate 700 rpm's and that would allow a slow steady descent of the weight- are there any new generating technologies that i could marry this gravity-burdened mechanical energy to that may be more efficient- i am also looking for other sites such as this that i may interact with engineers or experts as the internet is my sole tool for implementing this idea- additionally if any engineers would be interested in collaborating i would be hugely grateful- incidentally, i do have a way to return the weight to it's acsendent position without any energy expenditure from the systems output, i.e. a free lift- thanx, jaxon

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Re: weight=hp and gearing questions

12/17/2008 12:17 PM

To do this is with any efficiency is a challenge since a drop in height involves acceleration. You can use some sort of ratchet and pawl mechanism to control that, but you end up losing energy that way. But, let's say you can live with that. You're looking for 2 hp and that equals 66,000 ft-lb/min. Let's say, just for a talking number, that you can achieve 50% efficiency. So, now you need 132,000 ft-lb/min. A slow, steady descent might be 4 ft/min, so now you need 34,000 lb.

Let's say you use a 7:1 gear ratio, so the input shaft has to turn 100 rpm. So, 100 revolutions has to equal 4 feet, so the input sprocket diameter would be 0.04 ft/3.14 = about 1/8" so that doesn't work. Sounds like you might want to go to a much faster descent, but that's your call.

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02/04/2009 1:40 PM

I had a crazy Idea along those lines. It would involve driving you car onto a ramp using your car as weight. The front of your property would need to be higher than the rear of course. The greater the drop, the more charge time. You could have a gearbox with a generator attached on each corner of the ramp. You would want it to drop slowly over a period of hours if possible. To slow it down, the ramps downward action would raise a second ramp along side the one your are using.The generators could be used to charge your bank of house batteries or to produce hydrogen or compress air, whatever method you would choose to store the energy for use on demand. When your vehicle reaches the bottom you drive off around the back of your house and off to work or where ever. When you returned you would drive on the ramp that was raised when you there the last time, and the process repeats itself. Is this something that could be possible? It sure would be nice for all of us to be able to live off the grid. Don

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