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Protection or changing of GSGB Fuse(HRC)

10/30/2006 11:46 PM

Dear Engineers,

I have many DC Drive with Thyristor as power board. Those Drives's power source are from Government Electrical Power Company AC 3phase 380V 50Hz, and DC voltage output of Drives is 400V DC.

The main AC source sometime experience a spike or surge voltage and current. The surge voltage are not much, maximum to 500V AC. The main issue is Current Surge, it can reach to 3 kA.

When DC drives are running at about 90% of initial motor speed, and at the same time the main AC supplied get spike current to 3kA, the GSGB Fuse (Ultra Fast Acting Fuse Link or HRC Fuse Link) then blown down, causing DC Drive to trip.

The position of GSGB Fuses are upstream of Drive, it protect the drive from failure. The FUses used vary from 25A to 350A.

Some questions to discuss :

1. Is there anyone here know the time/current characteristic of those Fuses, how fast it will act to burn, how high of its short circuit current, etc? Can you explain?

2. Is there any Circuit Breaker which have similiar respon time to those Fuses?

3. How can I protect those fuses from blowing? because I'd like to keep those fuses good, and tripping the DC drive only when spike occur (only need one auxiliary relay).

4. Mainly, I'd like to keep the fuses good just when spike disturbance occur, or when I can't, I'd like to substitute by Circuit Breaker (may by the help of protection current transformer and current sensing relay).

Thanks for the help.

Regards.

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Re: Protection or changing of GSGB Fuse(HRC)

11/01/2006 8:39 AM

A combination of circuit breaker in the upstream and fuse in the downstream can help.

Molded Case Circuit Breakers (MCCBs) provides over current protection and disconnecting means.

MCCBs use a design featuring high-speed "blow-open" action that results in superior performance when high level fault currents produce extraordinary electromechanical forces. These circuit breakers also feature advanced arc extinguishing technology.

Current limiting fuses are available in both time-delay and fast-acting modes. Current grading is possible such that the breaker first trips.

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Re: Protection or changing of GSGB Fuse(HRC)

11/02/2006 1:17 AM

Dear Nvmani,

Thanks for the idea.

Suppose I insert a 350A of GSGB FUse BS88-1988 IEC 269-4 100kA 660V AC, what type and mfg of MCCB is available to get good discrimination of protection?

Another question, as we know that there's a surge protection device (SPD) that mainly corporate with the spike of voltage fluctuations, when load side withstand voltage is 1.2kV, so no matter what the supply voltage will be as long as in the range of SPD, the load side voltage will be maintain at 1.2kV max. so the equipment is safe from voltage spike.

Is there any other similiar device that corporate with withstand current?

Thanks you for your time, sir.

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Re: Protection or changing of GSGB Fuse(HRC)

11/02/2006 5:22 AM

Dear nvmani,

I just found the time/current characteristic of GSGB Fuse (HRC Fuse Link) Ultra high speed, refer to the graphic, for GSGB85 its pre-arching time for 3kA propective current is much less than 5ms (0.005 seconds), and its total operation time maximum 20ms.

Could you please give me the reference of MCCB type and manufacturer which have breaking time less than 5ms or 20ms? as far I know, the operation time of MCCB when fault occur is in the range of unit time in second.

thanks in advance.

Best Regards.

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Re: Protection or changing of GSGB Fuse(HRC)

06/12/2007 5:33 AM

Hi,

can i use a 6Amp,400ac, HRC fuse for DC protection of 6Amp?

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