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Flyback Transformer for Philips Widescreen TV

02/09/2009 11:20 AM

I have a Philips 32pw6006/25 32" wide screen TV CRT. I have had the back off and looked at it with a mate and we both think it could be the flyback trasformer.

There is a high pitched chirping noise that you can't quite figure out where its coming from once you turn on the main switch. The unit doesn't even go into standby mode or even let the power LED turn on.

Previously to the TV not working it used to take ages to warm up and keen turning off to stand-by mode and the right side of the TV would wobble till it warmed up then it would be ok.

the flyback transformer is only about £25 so its not the ned of the workld if the tv doesn't work after wards but is it likly to have taken anything elese out when it died that we should look for ?1

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Re: Flyback Transformer for Philips Widescreen TV

02/09/2009 1:47 PM

Be extremely careful when working around the flyback circuit. That CRT is also a high voltage capacitor that can store a lethal charge for a long time. Always ground out the high voltage sections first.

That being said I would also check the transistor that drives the flyback, they seem to fail quite often.

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02/09/2009 4:08 PM

I was also wondering if i could get a schematic off any one ???

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Re: Flyback Transformer for Philips Widescreen TV

02/09/2009 11:08 PM

http://www.riddledtv.com/forums/philips-32pw6006-25-beeping-no-output-t455.html

Well a lot of sites offer the manual online but only for money

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Re: Flyback Transformer for Phillip's Wide screen TV

02/10/2009 12:17 AM

Back in the 1980's Phillips Corp was manufacturing TV's for many different US companies, almost exclusively. I still have a console model mfg in 1986, and sold new in 1988. One day we had another one of our frequent power surges and the TV went black. I just stacked another model on top and that is as far as it got.

There are still a lot of older model American made TV's around, that can be had for just picking it up on the curb. Likely you will find the the entrails were the work of Phillips TV, and likely the parts are recyclable, for a lot less than 25L.

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Re: Flyback Transformer for Philips Widescreen TV

02/10/2009 12:35 AM

You should check the whole flyback / horizontal deflection circuit. There are circuit-specific repair kits and those contains every components should be replaced. Be extremely careful because CRT stores the HV for long time!

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Re: Flyback Transformer for Philips Widescreen TV

02/10/2009 9:54 AM

Check your high speed oscillator circuit for the source of the "chirping". If the oscillator circuitry is not working properly, the CRT cannot display a picture on the screen. SAMS schematics is a good source for wiring diagrams, schematics, and instruction manuals.

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Re: Flyback Transformer for Philips Widescreen TV

02/12/2009 3:11 AM

Hello,

When the horizontal circuit fails or shorts. This puts a very high load on the switch mode power supply and keeps it from starting and this in turns keeps the SMPS (for short) from starting up.This is the chirp you are hearing as it tries to start.

Philips tv's were bad for the solder joints around the horizontal transistor and the heatsink it mounts to to crack and the flyback transformer can develop cracks around the pins as they pass through the board.

So some of the checks are to look for these cracks and to remove the solder from all the joints and if you can get it, use real solder 60/40 or eutectic 63/37 solder and not the non lead type solder.Then re-solder the connections.

Another test is to check the horizontal transistor out of circuit to see if it's shorted.

Most likely it will be shorted but horizontal trans do test differently because they have a "flyback diode" in them. just find a spec sheet on it to guide in your testing of it.

Like some have said there are repair kits that should have most of the parts for a normal repair.

To temperately try to power up the tv is to use a 100watt light bulb inserted in the DC voltage line to the collector of the horizontal transistor. This trick should/will let the set power up minus the power supplies generated from the HIGH VOLTAGE CIRCUIT.

Just don't run it to long as it can damage other parts. Also the brightness of the buld is a good indicator of shorted parts. Bright = shorted high current draw, med = lower current draw may be ok?

Just be carful the voltages on the DC supply can be up to 175 volts or more and enough current to KILL.

All this said, it is just enough info to get you in to trouble if your electronic skills are not up to doing this proper. TV CRTs can carry a healthy jolt even after they been discharge, they sorta regenerate voltage back unless shorted for a long time, and thats no guarantee.

So my suggestion is to get either a factory service manual or SAMS manual they are good also, just reversed engineered so they flow a little different than factory IMO.

OR to save your self some headache and grief take it to a reputable service center and let them repair it and do a proper setup and check the crt. If the shop is good the and the sets crt still has life in it. Then it will come back to you almost as good as new.

Rule of thumb is repair should be around 1/3 -1/2 cost of a new set for service shop. If the set is 3-6 years old it's may be a good candidate for repair. If set is over 6 or more years old you might think about just replacing it.

Hope this helps you to decide.

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Re: Flyback Transformer for Philips Widescreen TV

02/12/2009 12:48 PM

thanks i can go look at all that stuff once i get home and don't feel like crap :) i should be able to nut it all out i think :)

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Re: Flyback Transformer for Philips Widescreen TV

03/16/2009 2:36 PM

Ok thanks for all that help before now, I have replaced the Flyback transistor after battling to get it delivered and apparently my money wasn't good enough the first time....... and the TV is working again but it is doing the same thing it did just before it died.

what it did was it is coming on and on the right side the screen is flickering and eventually it warms up and the screen fills out is it worth replacing the transformer ??? or is it likely to be not worth the effort ?? like if i replace this is it going to be something else in the chain ??? its not much to get a transformer i just don't want to get it then find out that its something else ???

i don't really want to buy a new tv but i don't want to be wasting money chasing my tail either :)

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