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What Hapens to Objects Made of Radioactive Elements as They Decay?

02/16/2009 2:22 AM

There is a long story as to how I arrived at the question below. If your interested in hearing the story, read on. If you want to save some time and skip the story, then I don't want to bore you . . . the question is at the bottom, and the story isn't at all necessary to understand it.

I spent a few hours driving home from dropping one of my brothers off at college last night, and happened to have my GlowRing (http://tinyurl.com/c2wda7) with me. GlowRings are gaseous tritium light sources (GYLS) which are basically glass tubes filled with tritium and lined with phosphor. They glow because as tritium decays, it emits high speed electrons that strike the phosphor and cause it to illuminate. I think they are very cool.

When asked why I feel they are very cool, (by friends and family who sometimes find my interests odd) I never have a good answer. Previously when considering this, the answer that I always gave myself is that the glow represents a breach of what I usually consider fundamental rules of matter. The spontaneous transformation of an element, the most basic building block of everything, into an entirely different element. The analogy that I have come up for this is that all the objects I typically experience are like brick structures. The bricks are the fundamental building block of the structure, and they will stay as bricks forever. The GTLS in this analogy is like being presented with a building where the bricks are suddenly transforming into a loaves of pound cake. I feel that to witness such a strange phenomenon is something extremely interesting.

A new analogy presented itself to me tonight. My other brother proposed to his girlfriend this weekend. She said yes, and he presented her with a very sparkly chunk of carbon mounted in gold to wear on her finger. The new analogy that came to mind is that the fundamental change occurring in the GTLS is just as if a diamond was to slowly change into a chunk of iron. This thought set off the alarm in my head reserved for times when I know there's something wrong and I need to figure out what it is. If the carbon in the diamond was to decay, it wouldn't change to iron, it would change to nitrogen.

So when I finally got home the question I was left with was this:

If a diamond was artificially made entirely out of Carbon-14 instead of Carbon-12, what would it look like in 5730 years, after half of it's mass had been transformed into Nitrogen? Would it evaporate into the air? Fall apart? Change color?

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Re: What hapens to objects made of radioactive elements as they decay?

02/16/2009 4:20 AM

WIKI: diamond+nitrogen

Nitrogen

The most common impurity in diamond is nitrogen, which can comprise up to 1% of a diamond by mass.[8] Previously, all lattice defects in diamond were thought to be the result of structural anomalies; later research revealed nitrogen to be present in most diamonds and in many different configurations. Most nitrogen enters the diamond lattice as a single atom (i.e. nitrogen-containing molecules dissociate before incorporation), however, molecular nitrogen incorporates into diamond as well.[10]

Absorption of light and other material properties of diamond are highly dependent upon nitrogen content and aggregation state. Although all aggregate configurations cause absorption in the infrared, diamonds containing aggregated nitrogen are usually colorless, i.e. have little absorption in the visible spectrum.[2] The four main nitrogen forms are as follows:

C-nitrogen center

C center corresponds to electrically neutral single substitutional nitrogen atoms in the diamond lattice. These are easily seen in electron paramagnetic resonance spectra[11] (in which they are confusingly called P1 centers). C centers impart a deep yellow to brown color; these diamonds are classed as type Ib and are commonly known as "canary diamonds", which are rare in gem form. Most synthetic diamonds produced by high-pressure high-temperature (HPHT) technique contain a high level of nitrogen in the C form; nitrogen impurity originates from the atmosphere or from the graphite source. One nitrogen atom per 100,000 carbon atoms will produce yellow color.[12] Because the nitrogen atoms have five available electrons (one more than the carbon atoms they replace), they act as "deep donors"; that is, each substituting nitrogen has an extra electron to donate and forms a donor energy level within the band gap. Light with energy above ~2.2 eV can excite the donor electrons into the conduction band, resulting in the yellow color.[13]

The C center produces a characteristic infrared absorption spectrum with a sharp peak at 1344 cm-1 and a broader feature at 1130 cm-1. Absorption at those peaks is routinely used to measure the concentration of single nitrogen.[14] Another proposed way, using the UV absorption at ~260 nm, has later been discarded as unreliable.[13]

Acceptor defects in diamond ionize the fifth nitrogen electron in the C center converting it into C+ center. The latter has a characteristic IR absorption spectrum with a sharp peak at 1332 cm-1 and broader and weaker peaks at 1115, 1046 and 950 cm-1.[15]

A-nitrogen center

The A center is probably the most common defect in natural diamonds. It consists of a neutral nearest-neighbor pair of nitrogen atoms substituting for the carbon atoms. The A center produces UV absorption threshold at ~4 eV (310 nm, i.e. invisible to eye) and thus causes no coloration. Diamond containing nitrogen predominantly in the A form as classed as type IaA.[16]

The A center is diamagnetic, but if ionized by UV light or deep acceptors, it produces an electron paramagnetic resonance spectrum W24, whose analysis unambiguously proves the N=N structure.[17]

The A center shows an IR absorption spectrum with no sharp features, which is distinctly different from that of the C or B centers. Its strongest peak at 1282 cm-1 is routinely used to estimate the nitrogen concentration in the A form.[18]

B-nitrogen center

There is a general consensus that B center (sometimes called B1) consists of a carbon vacancy surrounded by four nitrogen atoms substituting for carbon atoms.[2][1][19] This model is consistent with other experimental results, but there is no any direct spectroscopic data corroborating it. Diamonds where most nitrogen forms B centers are rare and are classed as type IaB; most gem diamonds contain a mixture of A and B centers, together with N3 centers.

Similar to the A centers, B centers do not induce color, and no UV or visible absorption can be attributed to the B centers. Early assignment of the N9 absorption system to the B center have been disproven later.[20] The B center has a characteristic IR absorption spectrum (see the infrared absorption picture above) with a sharp peak at 1332 cm-1 and a broader feature at 1280 cm-1. The latter is routinely used to estimate the nitrogen concentration in the B form.[21]

Note that many optical peaks in diamond accidentally have similar spectral positions, which causes much confusion among gemologists. Spectroscopists use for defect identification the whole spectrum rather than one peak, and consider the history of the growth and processing of individual diamond.[1][19][2]

N3 nitrogen center

The N3 center consists of three nitrogen atoms surrounding a vacancy. Its concentration is always just a fraction of the A and B centers.[22] The N3 center is paramagnetic, so its structure is well justified from the analysis of the EPR spectrum P2.[3] This defect produces a characteristic absorption and luminescence line at 415 nm and thus does not induce color on its own. However, N3 center is always accompanied by the N2 center, having an absorption line at 478 nm (and no luminescence).[23] As a result, diamonds rich in N3/N2 centers are yellow in color.

So, though it doses not specify, why don't we assume that at leas a part of these Nitrogen are from the decay of the original C14 in the tree or whatever that has transformed into Diamond ?

If your total diamond is of C14 then of course the matter may vbe difficult, First the Nitrogen will go un to C as above. And then the coloured Diamond will become amorphous.

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Re: What hapens to objects made of radioactive elements as they decay?

02/17/2009 12:39 PM

Hello sb,

It is one of those questions I wish I had asked. Well done and thanks to the OP and, to you for such a detailed answer. A GA to you sir!

Take care.................

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Re: What happens to objects made of radioactive elements as they decay?

02/16/2009 6:53 AM

In addition to the excellent reply sb has given, Eventually, the defects generated by up to half the mass becoming nitrogen would affect the clarity of the diamond.

If enough of the C transformed into N, the 3D structure would start to break up and it would eventually become crumbly.

As the diamond structure is extremely strong, considerable deterioration of the structure would be needed for it to reach that stage.

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02/17/2009 8:14 AM

Well to start with, a diamond composed of C14 us unlikely. C14 is created in the upper atmosphere whereas diamonds are created beneath the earth's crust. C13 is the more common isotope found in sub-crustal carbon.

Having worked with some nuclear projects over the years, the short answer is the material would look porous, perhaps even fractured. Tritium impregnates steel and when this decomposes it becomes helium causing the steel to become brittle over time. Basically hydrogen embrittlement taken a step further. I would imagine you would see a similar consequence in your thought experiment. As the carbon converted to nitrogen gas, the internal pressure would increase, and as the crystalline lattice became weaker through the attrition of carbon atoms holding it together, then the piece would eventually crack along some plane of weakness.

Ultimately you would end up with a foggy, cracked, brittle diamond.

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02/17/2009 8:24 AM

I may be mistaken here, but I believe that the radioactive decay is the emission of neutrons, not electrons. The basic chemical composition of the element is not changed. I can nolt speak to the diamond.

The half life of Tritium is 12 years. Enjoy your ring.

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02/18/2009 8:02 AM

^ Well actually radioactive decay can be in many forms of particles. Tritium is a beta emitter, which is an electron. Hence the phosphoressance with the ring.

I'm still amazed that you can actually buy tritium. It seems like that would be a controlled material.

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02/18/2009 8:20 AM

Thank you all for your answers. I was somewhat surprised about the availability of tritium as well, I suppose the quantity is low enough to not be a significant hazard. Apparently they also use it in emergency exit signs where a power supply for the sign is unavailable, watch dials to make them glow, and certain gun-sites. I didn't know they found it in steel where it was affecting the brittleness though, that's very interesting.

Thanks again to everyone who answered.

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02/19/2009 4:21 PM

^They do in the plant that makes tritium.

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