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Cladding SS 316L at Normalized Temperature

02/16/2009 5:05 AM

Dear All Members,

I have one plate SA 516 Gr. 70N + SS 316L Clad (Explosion Bonding) to form as a head. After formed, percent of elongation is more than 5% and as per UCS-79, stress relief is required, but our client request to do normalizing method with temperature 900⁰C to 960⁰C. So, with this temperature, Clad can be stand or not. could anyone advice me regarding this matter.

Kindly, prompt respond are appreciated.

Thank you.

Faizol

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Re: Cladding SS 316L at Normalized Temperature

02/16/2009 6:46 PM

You should be alright because it is with the low-carbon 304L.

The biggest issue is due to the time-temperature-transition curve and the susceptibility of intergranular corrosion/carbide precipitation/sensitization.

However, with the 'L' grade you are looking around a time of 8 hours at a temperature of around 600C.

So, barring you have a very slow cool down time - there should not be an issue.

By the way - what thickness is your head / how long of a soak time is specified?

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Re: Cladding SS 316L at Normalized Temperature

01/07/2015 8:53 PM

thanks a lot~ now, i understand this Problem.

i have one question about the A516 Carbon steel+SS316L Clad Plate...

Ni Plating Between A516-60 or 70 Carbon steel and SS316L Clad Metal,

Q : Need? or Need Not? Please help me~^^

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Re: Cladding SS 316L at Normalized Temperature

02/16/2009 7:23 PM

Sir, SS grade is 316L and not 304L. it's same?

Thank you.

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Re: Cladding SS 316L at Normalized Temperature

02/16/2009 8:56 PM

They are not "the same" ......... (316L has 2% molybdenum)

However, the sensitization issue is the same. That is, because it is the low carbon grade (L), you shouldn't have an issue.

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Re: Cladding SS 316L at Normalized Temperature

02/17/2009 9:00 AM

The stainless steel has no issues. You will have a problem with the steel. The SA-516 Gr.70 should not be heated over 1350ºF (732ºC). This is the "lower transformation temperature" referenced in UCS-85(f). If you heat the carbon steel material up to normalization temperatures, you have no guarantee that the material will be any good after the treatment and UCS-85 requires you to do a new set of tensile testing to prove that the material still meets SA-516 Gr.70.

UCS-79 wants a heat treatment per UCS-56, which is 1100ºF (595ºC) minimum, up to 1200ºF (649ºC) is OK.

As you have "L-grade" stainless steel cladding, with less than 0.03% carbon, you will not have any issues with sensitization for up to about 10 hours of heat treatment.

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Re: Cladding SS 316L at Normalized Temperature

02/17/2009 7:16 PM

Dear Lawrence,

My Carbon Steel Plate already complete with Normalised at mill SA 516 Gr.70N, "N" sign mean Normalised. I'm not sure why you said Carbon steel can't Normalised.

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Faizol

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Re: Cladding SS 316L at Normalized Temperature

02/23/2009 9:00 AM

Normalization is a time-dependent process. The more time at normalization temperature that the carbon steel spends, the softer it gets. The ultimate and yield stress test results will go down, possibly below SA-516 minimums. Read through UCS-85 for the Code requirements on heating SA-516 above its lower tranformation temperature (1350ºF). I have done this and it has come out OK, but I don't think that it is guaranteed.

If you have a contact at a steel producer, call them up.

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Re: Cladding SS 316L at Normalized Temperature

01/07/2015 9:19 PM

thank you very march ~~

i have another question about the A516 Carbon steel+SS316L Clad Plate...

Ni Plating Between A516-70and SS316L,

Q : Need? or Need Not?

Also, Normalizing(N) or Normalized Rolling (=NR =Controlled Rolling methode)

Both Manufacturing Process Methode are avaliable for Something?

Please help me~^^ have nice day~~

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Re: Cladding SS 316L at Normalized Temperature

02/22/2009 7:26 PM

Irrespective of the 'there should be no problem comments', it would be advisable to confirm no degradation of the 316L material using ASTM A262 intergranular corrosion testing.

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