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Calculating Lag Time for an Air-Drilled Gas Well

02/19/2009 11:59 AM

Hello,

I am Sandra Elliott, a geologist in western Texas, I know lots of geology but very little engineering.

I need a formula on how to calculate lag time. I need to average the time it takes for the cut rock samples to travel from the bottom of the hole to the top. The lag time increases as the depth increases. I have looked online and in my books but have not been able to find anything useful.

I know it is a formula involving density,velocity,viscosity and volume of the rocks, air,foam, and water. If anyone has a handy way to calculate this problem out I would greatly appreciate the help. Thank You,

Sandra Elliott

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Re: Calculating Lag Time for an Air-Drilled Gas Well

02/19/2009 10:57 PM

I've been doing this for so many years that I have forgotten the formulas, but it works like this: cfm/annular space= annular velocity. Take away the the 'sink' rate of your cuttings. That is your bottoms up time. If you really want to know the bottoms up time, inject some dye into the air-stream and watch for it, and look for the cuttings behind it.

Hope this helps...

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02/20/2009 8:19 AM

Rockbit,

I don't have clue about geology. 30 years in electrical engneering and power plant ...but I know an expert when I read one.

I am sure you response deserved a" Very Good answer Rating" from your peers!!!!

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02/20/2009 8:23 AM

annuluar volume / flow rate will give up lag time. When drilling with air there should not be much sag. Basic mudlogging. Fluid phase in mud will affect results but if you are using just air there should not be too much of an issue

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09/04/2009 5:06 PM

(but if you are using just air there should not be too much of an issue)

exactly what do you mean by this

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09/04/2009 6:17 PM

Philo,

Sink rate in air drilled holes is not affected much by the viscocity of the circulating medium, in this case air. It is, however affected by cuttings size. In highly fractured formations, large cuttings will exhibit sag. In dense, slow drilling hard rock, making mostly dust, practically no sag at all.

Injected dye or easily detecable tracer gas, such as oderant will tell the tale.

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09/04/2009 7:38 PM

Correct. But as you know most "air drilled" wells have some fluid component in the circulation system that may affect the carrying capacity of the medium.

As you so rightly state when the rock is reduced to effectively powder there would be practically no sag whatsoever. With larger fragments then there might be a drop out rate.

This can be calculated I'd guess but the simplest means it to do a lag test with a coloured medium as you suggest.

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06/13/2009 6:12 PM

Lag time =

(Hole ID) sq - ( pipe OD) sq divided by 1029.46 then x the hole length

that is annulus vol

find out pump output and multiply output by annulus vol

that gives you number of strokes

then find out the pump stroke per min

then times stroke per min by the strokes

that gives you your lag time

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09/04/2009 6:02 PM

Sorry guest, not so. Pump stroke calculations are meaningless on air drilled holes, ther's no pump (excluding the mist pump) They use compressed air, not mud.

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09/04/2009 12:43 PM

this is a formula for gas wells right

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10/18/2009 12:42 AM

There is a way to calculate lag time for Air drilled wells.

Firstly we need to calculate the scfm to Gallon per minute.

1 scfm = 7.48gpm

Also rig pumps would be pumpin water along with the air. That gpm needs to be added to the air gpm and then we can calculate the lag time by dividing the total GPM by the total hole depth.

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