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Solar Structural Insulated Panels

11/14/2006 5:16 AM

I am looking for the best ratio price/productivity in solar panels for a project of solar structural insulated panels

What are your experiences ladies and gents?

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Re: Solar Structural Insulated Panels

11/15/2006 3:22 AM

All of our factory use glass base as their solar cell insulate panel. as I know. the glass is produced by a fcotry closed to our place. They seems from 3mm to 5mm for large size and 1mm or lower for samll size.

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Re: Solar Structural Insulated Panels

11/15/2006 7:07 AM

"Solar Structural Insulated Panels"?

I'm not aware of a product that combines all of those attributes. If you need "structural" as in being able to support walls, floors, roofs, etc. you're talking about a different product than "insulated panels" or "solar panels". Generally speaking, I would design a "structural system" and "skin" it with a envelope that would in some part of its assembly include insulation. Solar panels, whether thermal or photovoltaic would be something that might be surface applied to some part of the roof or walls. I am aware of a fellow who is producing photovoltaic shingles... he has incorporated the photovoltaic system into a flexible membrane that is able to function as a shingle system on a conventionally constructed roof.

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Re: Solar Structural Insulated Panels

11/15/2006 7:43 AM

You are right, we already have structural insulated pannels similar to sip's, we are researching a way to incorporate a solar pannels to our roof or wall pannels.

The slope of our basic roof is 3 1/2 inches for 10 feet, so it's not enough ro install shingle, so we are looking at something else.

But we are manufacturing roof pannels with 4/12 slope wich we can study the opportunity of installing shingles, so could you tell me how i could reach your fellow inventor please.

Thanks for the interst.

If you are curious about our system, i can send you an informative pamphlet, send me your e-mail adress. pdesj@hotmail.com

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Re: Solar Structural Insulated Panels

11/15/2006 9:32 AM

Pierre!

The fellow that I'm referring to, was just starting production back in the early '90's. He was located in Troy Michigan. A quick google search picked up the link that I've inserted here, but I don't think this is him. I have heard radio adverts for him in the Michigan area (the last time I was in that area), so you might want to do a bit more research than posts here to find him. What I know of his product (He was part of my graduate research) was before he even went into production. His product (at that time) had the potential to generate enough power to take the average house off the grid.

Good hunting.

http://www.oksolar.com/roof/

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Re: Solar Structural Insulated Panels

11/15/2006 10:51 AM

I do not know if you are an installer looking for a product to purchase, in which case your options are limited at this time, but looking good in the next few years...OR

You are a manufacturer (or will be, or are enhancing your product line) in which case you may wish to contact the patent holders of the processes to produce economical thin-film PLASTIC photocell systems, which could be laminated onto any window pane, sheet metal skin, etc... but which would require you, as I understand it from the summary of their presentation at the recent solar energy show (Solar Power 2006), to license their ~turn-key system which they would apparently assist you in designing and installing at your plant.

The company is called Sun-x, and announced they were opening up their "demonstration-size" prototype production line, I think in Colorado, this fall...like it may be open now...

*I just Googled it - they have a site here: www.xsunx.com

Now that I've seen it, I may have to track these guys...apparently has a small team of professionals and a few marketing folks on staff and as advisors, including some guy who helped develop the first solar cells and another expert in thin-film manufacturing tech - I think they're onto something I've not seen yet.

Panels using their tech may not be nearly as "efficient" density-wise, but they don't need silicon, are flexible, would be vastly more durable than glass panels or cells, could be insignificant as a weight consideration, don't need any additional structural framing to support as they would be integrated onto glazing or exterior panels, are thin like an eGlass film, and would be cheap to produce once mass-production came online...and already have working prototypes and are looking for manufacturers interested in licensing the tech for their own branded products rather than doing it all themselves...hmmmm.

If you find a way to produce your panels with their tech, let us know here on CR4 if you are publicly traded.

The first guys out the door with this on a large scale are going to be a "specifiable" product that could be integrated architecturally with just about anything, including, I would think, narrow strips down standing-seam metal roofing as well....wow.

Wish I hadn't missed the show/presentation, now - I'll have to look into this further, now that you've gone and brought up the subject. ;)

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Re: Solar Structural Insulated Panels

11/24/2006 10:56 AM

I chek xsunx, it seem to be only marketing guys... and no products or researcher...perhaps an stock scam

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Re: Solar Structural Insulated Panels

12/13/2006 4:05 AM

we produce solar panel,if you have any problem,please feel free to contact us,my email:xixiaochi@hotmail.com

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