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Edge Preparation and Fillet Welding

04/03/2009 4:45 AM

Without making edge preparation is it possible for making Fillet welding??

Since Butt welding cannot be made without any edge preparation???

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04/03/2009 8:04 AM

Why don't you please study any welding technology book ?

Butt welding cannot be made without any edge preparation

Butt welding can be done without edge preparation. In the previous post, in the weld symbols, there was a butt welding without edge preparation. Of course this is rare but they do exist.

Without making edge preparation is it possible for making Fillet welding??

They are done usually without edge preparation.

These questions really show the lack of basic knowledge of welding. And learning from the forum and exercising those in the actual is extremely hazardous.

My sincere advise again is to get hold of some welding engineer and use him for all these. In coimbatore you will get a lot (you have quite a few heavy fabrication industries around) ask your organisation to employ somebody.

If it is for your personal knowledge, get hold of a book on welding technology and study.

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Re: Welding

04/04/2009 9:20 AM

Mr. sb is correct these are very basic questions that any welder could help you with. Most of the times on fillet welding the only edge prep would be to clean to remove and contaminants by brushing or grinding the surface before welding. Usually butt welding does have edge prep in the form of beveling and many times more such as counter boring to match ID of the two pieces. I personally would not strike an arc on a butt weld of any significance without at least some edge prep but it can be done. Preparing the edges of the pieces to weld in a weldment by grinding the metals to be free of contaminants is the first step to making a good weld IMO.

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Re: Welding

04/03/2009 8:27 AM

I agree with sb.

If your company does the manufacturing I suggest that you talk to the welders.

In the various companies I have worked at, I found it very helpful to be friends with and help anybody in the shop.

If I helped them when they made a mistake without belittling them, they would help out when I made a mistake.

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Re: Edge Preparation and Fillet Welding

04/04/2009 1:44 AM

Hi...

Please let this forum not become a class room. It should be use for consultancy purposes for obtaining genuine solutions.

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Re: Edge Preparation and Fillet Welding

04/04/2009 6:06 AM

you folks seem insulted at the idea that someone would ask an elementary question.

dinakarj, I agree it's best to do the research in a reliable source. You should be familiar with weldment design before using them in design. Needless to say, weld failure is a very serious matter.

I would recommend Lincoln Arc Welding Foundation http://www.jflf.org/ They offer some great affordable materials and some free info too. And it's based on practical application of their years of experience. if you want a metallurgical thesis on weld mechanics you should go to the journals or a graduate level study. Hopefully this helps a little more. If there is someone at your facility who can be considered a master welder or senior engineer, I would ask them as well to help you after you brush up on some basics.

Best of luck

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04/04/2009 7:16 AM

No insult was meant. It was a pure advice given.

There were earlier posts also from the OP, and there also the necessary clarifications were given.

It is adviced to look at some of the posts and try to understand the concept. We can always give some professional advice, but providing the basic knowledge- this is not forum.

Similarly you can have a look at a member- where the total heat exchanger is being designed in this forum. The OP does not understand that the design of HE is not a childs play You should have a thorough knowledge to do it. In our organisation approximately 30-40 design personnel are there for this purpose.

You simply can not design things in the forum and assume it will work. It may be catastrophic, and with nobody but you yourself to blame. We are just trying to caution the novice. And as per one of the posts, he is not a college student rather a graduate mechanical engineer working in steel fabrication zone (plates).

No offence meant - but these weldings were taught to us in our second year (5 yr engg course) - and that is approx 30 years back - BTW my stream was electrical.

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Re: Edge Preparation and Fillet Welding

04/04/2009 8:01 AM

Hi...

You need not take it otherwise. This forum is for advise and please let it be so. It appears the gentleman has been given a lot of responsibility for which he has little or no training. There is another question from him in this forum. It is a pure commercial matters question on import duties which should logically be addressed to a Custom House Agent.

We must not discourage inquisitiveness but must nevertheless discourage mediocrity.

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Re: Edge Preparation and Fillet Welding

04/06/2009 2:32 AM

Hi Dinakarj,

I would recommend you to buy a copy of welding technology and design by V M Radhakrishnan printed in India, it will answer most of your basic welding queries.

I did a British apprenticeship and one of the first things that we were taught was "if you don't know ask!"

If you're in doubt also ask!

I have been working in India for over two years and most Indians don't ask, this is more of a problem than asking simple questions!

Keep on learning and remember "knowledge is potential power" or as I prefer potential cash!

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Re: Edge Preparation and Fillet Welding

04/07/2009 6:04 AM

He woldn't learn.

Despite all these again he asks another fundamental question.

decided to neglect him.

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