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Material Hardness

04/14/2009 3:10 AM

how much hardness can be achieve in die steel or WPS or in CD4MCU material ?

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Re: Material Hardness

04/15/2009 7:08 AM

CD4MCu commonly goes up to 48 HRC. Common die steels such as H11 or H13 are usually heat treated to about the same hardness. That is not the maximum achievable hardness, but the one that in general provides for the best combination of strength and ductility (toughness). Of course, depending on application.

Your question is very general. Please be more specific, i.e. what are you trying to achieve, what triggered your question. The maximum hardness is not going to help you much, I'll tell you right now. As I said, it all depends on the application.

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04/15/2009 9:27 AM

we are manufacturing pump and for one cement slurry application we want to make pump from hard metal so wear and tear will be minimise. at present they are using Ni hard pumps but face problem , hardness of metal is approx 300 RHC . we want to achieve some more hardness so we want to make pump from WPS material.

please advise.

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04/15/2009 11:37 AM

So you think that hardness is the answer? Good luck to you.

You have not described your failure mode.

"we want to make pump from hard metal so wear and tear will be minimise."

I bet when you increase hardness your failures will increase.

Hardness is not always the answer.

Depth of hardness is another factor.

Toughness is yet another.

How is wear and tear causing pumps to fail? abrasion, shock, overload?

So when you get the steel so hard it is brittle, and then it just cracks because of a random shock in the cold weather, what will your strategy be?

People love to increase hardness, when they really want toughness.

A-2 provides high hardness with low distortion and high abrasion resistance.

frankly, 1080 with vanadium was the choice for tools for quarry tools- drills and chisels. Have you tried that? You could probably take that up top 1.00-1.10 C with vanadium and get good performance.

Hard = brittle. How is that the answer?

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04/15/2009 8:35 PM

One place I worked made pumps.

For one of our customers we produced a specially treated Nihard impeller. It was so brittle that if you dropped it off the bench it would shatter like glass. If a nut got into our customers slurry, it would shatter the impeller, so they screened their slurry fairly carefully.

A competitor convinced them to try one of their pumps. the impeller lasted less than 24 hours! (Ours used to get about 2 months)

The point is, if your slurry is abrasive but has a small particle size, extreme hardness (with the attendant brittleness) can give good life.

Before you go this route, be very sure of the cause of pump failures. This solution only works in a limited type of situation.

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Re: Material Hardness

04/16/2009 11:52 AM

Have tried surface treatment of the impellers to increase the abrasion resistance with a tough bulk metal? Contact technovationsintl@gmail.com for more information.

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04/16/2009 12:22 PM

Welcome aboard!

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