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a question about springs

06/01/2009 3:59 PM

Hi

can some one tell me how can I put load on a spring ( compression ) but the spring stands still and after a critical load it begins to compress.

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Re: a question about springs

06/01/2009 4:08 PM

A simple spring won't do that.

Can you provide any more details of what you want?

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06/01/2009 5:27 PM

I wanted to make a table with holes on top and cylenders below the holes with a springs in it so that whenever u put a pack of CDs on it one pack alwaysremain on top of the table but after putting the second one the first one goes down and the second takes its place.

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06/02/2009 2:07 AM

That might be a bit difficult to do with an open top. But it would be really simple to do if you think (conceptually) about how a magazine for bullets works. Or a kids PEZ candy dispenser. That is assuming that you want the packs of CDs to push back up as they are removed.

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06/01/2009 4:48 PM

If you do not need it to be repeatable, you can use various coatings on springs to make them rigid to a predictable load.

Once the critical load is exceeded, the coating breaks, and it becomes just a spring.

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06/01/2009 4:57 PM

Such a thing might be most easily acomplished by putting tie bolts or bars across the spring or by other means capture it and retain it in a partially compressed state.

As you load such an assembly, the spring will not compress apreciably until the preload is exceeded.

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Re: a question about springs

06/01/2009 5:38 PM

would u give me more info?

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06/01/2009 5:52 PM

Arresting cables would be the easiest way to accomplish this. Picture a coil spring. Partially compress it to your desired pre-load. Now attach cables from either the bottom coil or the spring support to the top coil or load plate. The cables will hold the pre-load and the spring will only further compress under a load exceeding the pre-load.

Another option would be to have your load plate be captured on a set of guide rods or runners. Placing a top-stop on your guides that restrains the spring in a pre-loaded state would accomplish the same effect.

In either case, be sure to label your final product with a captured-energy warning. Anyone disassembling the device could be injured be a sudden release of the pre-loaded spring.

Good luck!

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06/01/2009 5:53 PM

Register and I'll think about it.

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06/01/2009 11:00 PM

Easy to do in hydraulic springs

Pressure relief halve relieves at the set pressure and then onwards it may be controlled. Of course you need a bit of hydraulic circuit to do it.

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06/02/2009 12:10 AM

You're kidding.

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06/02/2009 3:23 AM

School canteens and similar places have equipment that uses this technique to support a stack of plates. As the top plate is removed, the stack moves up so that the next plate is at the same elevation as the first plate, and so-on until the stack is exhausted.

Time for a field study?

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06/02/2009 7:19 AM

GA! Navy messes use a similar technique where the top plate stays slightly below the top of the container so that ship motion doesn't dump the plates.

Back to the OP: All you need is Hooke's Law and a uniform weight for the CDs.

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