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roofing configuration question

06/06/2009 11:44 PM

I am doing an addition for a single story, single family, ranch style house in California. I am exploring doing a hip roof that is adjacent to a gable roof and this gable roof is adjacent to a hip roof, creating 3 peaks that will cover 3 different projections from the main area of the house. The 3 peaks create 2 flat valleys in the middle. I have not seen any house that have this type of roofing. I was told that this can be done, by cricketing the flat valleys, but this type of roofing seems to be avoided in general, for I didn't see any single house that had this situation.

In elevation, it looks attractive, but is it recommendable?

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06/08/2009 10:31 AM

Guest,

I cannot picture the roof in your question. Can you make a simple sketch to show the lines of the existing ridges, hips, and valleys; as well as the proposed addition?

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06/10/2009 5:33 PM

Best: Solution one with the ridge continuing to both hip peaks (no blind valleys) OK: Second solution with a large cricket to drain the water. Flat areas are future problems, keep everything sloping

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06/08/2009 10:48 AM

Do you mean like this:-

Or like this:-

Sorry I just downloaded sketchup to do these drawings and it seems to have rendered different surfaces in different ways.

The first way you will need very substantial waterproofing on the gable ends, to avoid water seeping through the walls.

The second way should be OK, as long as you don't get too much snow.

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06/08/2009 1:39 PM

Please do yourself a monumental favor and avoid the valleys altogether in lieu of the crickets (mini peaks where the valleys would normally run out).

Or make it even easier and run an entirely new ridge to the peak (ridge) of each new structure. It may cost a fifty bucks more in 2x6's and 2x8's if that's what you're using, and maybe half dozen pieces of 5/8 sheathing... But it will make ALL the difference when the rain or snow hits.

The building codes should prevent the valleys and mandate the crickets, so you may not have a choice. Where is this addition work/building going on?

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06/09/2009 12:30 AM

In the land of OZ, at least in the state of New South Wales, we try to avoid having two roofs drain into a common gutter. We call this a box gutter. It tends to accumulate dead leaves and other flammable material. This is usually removed when the wildfire comes to visit.

I am not sure if your proposed extension is in a part of California that is prone to fire but if you are this may be worth considering.

If you would like any additional information just let me know. I am just about sick of bar-b-qued families.

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06/09/2009 12:18 PM

There a few different scenarios from the way you described it. In some of these you will not need a cricket. Crickets are used to change run off or deter snow loads. Being in Caliornia you only need worry about the former. You have probably seen many crickets and just did not realize it. Done properly you are not supposed notice them unless you are specifically looking for them. If you are using terra cotta tile I am sure the roofer would be happy if you do not. A drawing would help.

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