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The Myth of Ground

06/08/2009 11:33 AM

Over the years that I've worked in electronics, I've noticed several common misconceptions about the use of the word "ground." Some of these misconceptions comes from our desires to shorten nomenclature designations to fit the tiny box on our wiring documentation. A large part of the problem comes from the valid need to simplify circuitry for analysis and study, particularly in school. But I know the differences in how and why a wire is connected to earth produces very different effects and requirements.

In a perfect world (please no snickers ) the use of the word "ground" would be limited to the path of lightning strikes, other unintended currents and a return path for antenna based radio frequency emissions. Return would designate the path for intended currents. This designation differentiation does exist in AC power distribution with labels Neutral and Ground. Also, above my head I happen to have the pin designations for the arcane NIM (Nuclear Instrumentation Module) package. Discarding the shield connection of the six coaxial connectors as grounds and the numerous chromated chassis contacts there are three additional pins that at some point connect to the power cord's ground pin; the power return ground, the high quality ground, and the 117 volts A.C. neutral.

This brings me to the title of this discussion. Frequently we forget that different things that are connected to ground need not be at identical potentials. While they can be at the same potential at a given moment in time, rarely will this true. As we all should remember, this happens from several factors; the IR drop across the connecting wire, ground loops and interference. Ground is not zero volts, this is a myth. Even when one uses superconducting material for part of the circuitry. The factors of inductance, contact resistance transitioning to room temperature conductors, the resistance of the room temperature conductors and any ground loop effects created will create a voltage potential. Predominantly, these differences can easily be made so small that they can be ignored. But "close enough" is not the definition of identical.

Using this approach to separate earth connections into two groups one can measure micro-amperes of current just a few meters away from a megawatt RF amplifier that is not the RF amplifier's interference signal. By separating return current loop paths from ground loop paths in one's circuit analysis, more accurate and reliable measurements can be accomplished. This does mean that frequently one wire will carry both a return and ground current. But recognizing the difference between the two leads to better signal integrity.

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06/08/2009 11:47 AM

Yes.

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06/08/2009 12:02 PM

Yes

And nowhere (in my limited experience) will one find the distinction as clearly as in avionics. The first thing we start teaching engineers as they come in the door is *Ground ain't ground.*

(Or I am being a snob, and it is just one area in which the differences are obvious and most familiar to me.)

But we use several grounds so one knows what the potential differences *might* be under different circumstances.

Chassis Ground - is simply leached away through the airframe, frequently impacted by maintenance practices and age issues. Also most likely to *float* from outside sources like P-static.

Power Ground - isolated from else, and with higher sink needs. Frequently routed back to negative of producing source.

Signal Ground - cleanest ground available, but with limited need for capacity. Frequently routed back to battery negative.

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06/08/2009 12:50 PM

As much as I hate to say anything good about EEs (I'll never forgive the $$%#**& for killing 8-track), they solved this long ago with earth, chasis, and signal ground. They even use different symbols.

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06/08/2009 1:26 PM

Ah yes, 8-track tapes. The one consumer recording medium designed to fail with use. Somebody in the RIAA legal department must've loved this platform.

You've missed one of my points. Just because somebody knows something doesn't mean everyone remembers this all of the time. None the less you do bring up a point I forgot to bring up. The IEEE recognizes at least three different symbols commonly called "ground". They did this for a reason.

I opened this discussion to hear other peoples experiences in this.

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06/08/2009 2:56 PM

"I opened this discussion to hear other peoples experiences in this."

The last experience was an electrician who was of the "ground is ground the world around" school of thought.

We are still debugging all the ground loop problems in the plant (4 years later).

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06/08/2009 3:41 PM

Sorry, I was being too flip. I understand your point, but there is just so much legacy (all those IEEE standards, harmonized standards throughout the world, and so on) that it would be a huge, huge undertaking, requiring perhaps several decades. Our present system actually does work well if people only learn it and follow it. There is no magic to grounds below several MHz, and they can be made to do pretty much what we want.

I have seen grounds royally screwed up a lot. But, I've also seen them done very well when people knew what the heck they were doing. That seems to me to be the path to take.

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06/08/2009 3:48 PM

The same case stands for good old ohms law, sure they are both technically oversimplifications BUT they do work for 99 percent of the time. The trick is to know when to use the simple one and (in the case of high frequency) when you need to use the more complex one and all the additional design rules they require you to really consider (least your ground become an unintended antenna or heater).

No use over designing something after all (yes I said it, and yes I am a REAL Engineer).

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