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1998 Chrysler Town & Country LXi transmission trouble

08/23/2009 11:30 AM

An engineering friend/co-worker recommended that I appeal to the CR4 website for advice.

I have a 1998 Chrysler Town & Country LXi with transmission trouble.

Chronology of events:
1- "Service Engine Soon" dashboard light comes on.
2- Transmission won't up-shift to third gear.
3- Mechanic says it's "the" speed sensor. Didn't specify which one. Speed sensor

replaced; no change.
4- Fault code says, "Shift Solenoid C Malfunction." Mechanics advises replacing solenoid

pack. (Kind of expensive; wondering if the car is worth it.)
5- Through trial and error, I discover that the problem only happens when the engine is

warm. A blogger advises that sometimes a solenoid just "sticks." I should try TransTune

to un-stick it.
6- TransTune doesn't help, but now I have to get the fluid replaced anyway. Mechanic

says the transmission fluid was black, even though we both agree it was a healthy red

only days ago. Also claims the filter was just hanging; not securely attached. Problem

still persists.
7- Mechanic insists it's got to be the solenoid pack. I protest that if solenoid C were

bad, then it should be bad all the time, instead of just when the engine is warm. He

counters that it could be that when the engine is warm, there could be an intermittent

break in the grounding connection. I counter that if that were the case, then all of the

solenoids should malfunction at that point and the car should default to neutral.
8- A blogger says that if the onboard computer senses that the transmission is operating

too hot, it will shift to "limp mode" to protect the transmission. Mechanic does a

half-hearted investigation of the heat exchanger, claiming that this can't be the

problem because there is a separate fault code for just that kind of problem.

Any advice on what my next move should be?
(Other than put a "For Sale" sign in the windshield.)

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Re: 1998 Chrysler Town & Country LXi transmission trouble

08/23/2009 10:56 PM

Listen to your mechanic! Chrysler gearboxes are weird and the solinoids go out all the time. We change some almost everyday. The reason it only happens when it is warm is because there are electronic controls and they don't go into effect until the oil reaches a specific temperature measured by a probe in the wiring harness inside the transmission. If the fluid is black you have issues that need addressed and they could be that the gearbox is dwealing between gears caused by bad solinoids! Heat causes transmission death sure as can be so don't screw around or you won't have anything repairible before too long. I have been doing heavy line automotive repair work and have a shop with seven techs for almost 35 years now, your probllem is very common and the solinoids are most probably the issue.

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Re: 1998 Chrysler Town & Country LXi transmission trouble

08/24/2009 11:38 AM

Had a very similar situation last summer with son's Intrepid. We tossed the solenoid pack, flushed and refilled with fresh ATF and new filter total success. Mileage right at the 110k range shifting great.

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Re: 1998 Chrysler Town & Country LXi transmission trouble

08/24/2009 1:19 AM

1998 that means about 100,000 miles --- replace the electric brain. if that fails pay the 1000.00 get it rebuilt and while your at it replace the lifters and valve stem seals. You must have a good van or you would not be angery.

These vans will go for about 230,000 miles but around 100k to 120 k miles the tranny starts acting up the computer begins to fail, valve stems wear down and you begin to burn oil which interfers with the Vaccum system and all the sensors the computer relies on.

I used to buy these vans from rental companys for about 1500, rebuild the tranny do the valves and lifters then resale.

I have stopped because of the economy but made for good vaction money and christmas for a long time.

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Re: 1998 Chrysler Town & Country LXi transmission trouble

08/24/2009 1:26 AM

1) do a CVI test, most scan tools can do this.

that's a clutch volume test, and will tell you if it's worn internally.

2) check the harness to the solenoid pack, and the ground wires as well.

3) use only ATF+4 fluid, and no additives.

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Re: 1998 Chrysler Town & Country LXi transmission trouble

08/24/2009 1:34 PM

Failure to shift code can be attributed to front pump, clogged filter or sensor pack.

1. Have transmission fluid analyzed

2. Get a second opinion

3. $1000 will not cover vehicle replacement hassles, if required replace Tranny then consider selling, good vehicles set up the way you like'em are hard to come by.

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Re: 1998 Chrysler Town & Country LXi transmission trouble

08/25/2009 11:28 AM

I have a 2000 1 ton Dodge van. Last year the transmission started acting up, starting in second gear. The codes steered me to the solenoid pack. Replaced it and no problems yet.

If you think the cost of the solenoids are expensive, get a price quote on rebuilding that trans. If the cost scares you, get the solenoid pack from a junk yard. You will still get to change the transmission fluid and the chances of two solenoid packs performing exactly the same bad way are not likely at all. If the junk yard solenoids change anything, you will know that you need new ones. Good luck.

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