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Shaft Diameter and Loads

08/30/2009 11:23 PM

Kindly tell me the how shaft the shaft dia is chosen for any kind of load acting on shaft.

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Re: Mechanical design

08/31/2009 12:20 AM
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08/31/2009 4:28 AM

A shaft does not only transmit torques it also often supports radial and/or axial loads.

The diameter is determined taking ALL loads into consideration not only shear.

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Re: Mechanical design

08/31/2009 4:49 AM

Are you the guest? Do you feel like testing people today?

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08/31/2009 7:18 AM

I am not the guest and you feel bad it is not my problem.

In general I react when answers are -on my opinion- not at the level CR4 should have since -again according to my opinion- we have a responsibility toward those who ask and should give the most complete and professional answer, of course if we are able to do it.

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Re: Mechanical design

08/31/2009 7:31 AM

Cool your jets, old horse.

Nick Name gave the correct answer. All three loads are considered for any shaft design. Others (shock, thermal, etc) may be considered also.

Be careful about responding negatively to somebody who knows what they're talking about.

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Re: Mechanical design

08/31/2009 11:45 AM

The reason I react, as I did, is that much too often participants give answers in fields they do not know enough about only to manifest their presence for the discussion.

It is not the 1st time I had such a reaction and as long as I will be with CR4 I shall do the same for the reason I mentioned above: I FEEL responsible for the informations I give. It will not be superficial as far as my knowledge allows me to do it.

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Re: Mechanical design

08/31/2009 10:45 PM

I'm sticking with shaft shear as the primary stress and telling you your nothing but Timken's cop and thats not flogging the horse dead!

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Re: Mechanical design

08/31/2009 10:56 PM

Most axial and radial loads are borne on bearings and if exceeded then inspection and faulty operation causes the shaft to be replaced or repaired. The idea of engineering the calculation of axial and radial load is rarely reflecting on the shafts capabilities other than probability to withstand some flex which is choice of material question anyway! The radial and axial calculations are just good forms of guesswork unless you take all the operational calculations into account.

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Re: Mechanical design

09/01/2009 3:35 AM

I will close my participation to this discussion with following comment:

I doubt that you have designed many shafts in your professional life and that you understand how it has to be done and why.

I am not glad to make such a comment but even the fact that you mention forces as affecting only the bearings conforts me in this estimation. The flexion of shafts have an important effect on bearings especially on roller bearings and journal where angles on the bearings lead to a peak of local loading and reduction of life expectancy either due to fatigue or to intensive wear since lubrication is sensitive to high presszures. Look at a Stribeck curve it will explain you why.

Bending moments on shafts depending on the local stress concentration factors are very often reasons of failure.

No reason to answer since I shall not any more look at the thread.

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