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Cauterization and Surgical Products

09/02/2009 11:24 PM

Would cauterization at the surface of the wound be best enhanced by using vacuum dried (medically prepared) glucose or vacuum dried (medically prepared) saline crystals?

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Re: Cauterization enhancing products?

09/02/2009 11:37 PM

Sounds like a medical question. There is no definition of "wound".

What is, "medically prepared"?

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Re: Cauterization enhancing products?

09/02/2009 11:50 PM

Boiling pitch used to be considered "best practice" - anything changed?

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Re: Cauterization enhancing products?

09/02/2009 11:55 PM

Anything that feels like it! (Not much!)

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Re: Cauterization and Surgical Products

09/03/2009 9:12 PM

And by what mechanism do you think the addition of glucose 'enhances' cauterization?

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Re: Cauterization and Surgical Products

09/03/2009 11:17 PM

Don't surgeons use electrically heated scalpels to cauterize the margins of a wound as they make the incision? Has anyone ever use a styptic pencil to stop a shaving cut from bleeding, kind of burn a bit.

I am sure that the docs have compounds or devices to stop bleeding, I had never heard of using sugar or salt. I have heard of using hot instruments and vile compounds like the styptic pencils.

Vitamin K will accelerate clot formation. It can be taken orally, injected subcutaneously or intramuscularly. It can even be injected into an IV, this can result in an anaphylactic shock which can be fatal and if not fatal you think that you are going to die anyway. In any case, after 12 units of blood, I survived.

They couldn't locate the source of my internal bleeding so they couldn't use any of the more direct approaches.

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Re: Cauterization and Surgical Products

09/04/2009 12:14 PM

Electrically heated scalpels are often replaced with lasers. Tonsillectomies are usually done with lasers now to restrict bleeding.

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09/04/2009 8:37 AM

Look up 'honey for wounds' on internet & you'll see its use as a proven method to counteract infection & enhance healing. I might imagine also that with the right auxilary bandages that honey would help 'patch' a wound by glueing/holding the wound's edges together. There are already glue products for such a task. Whether they protect the injury from infection or not I know not. I am guessing also that there may be a way to create a glue like material from aloe vera. I know it dries tacky/sticky... perhaps in some concentrated form. Maybe either honey or aloe vera can be dried on the wound using a warm stream of air to accelerate the 'glueing' process. Carlos - Biomed. Tech.

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09/04/2009 9:53 AM

Understood about the ancients use of it for wound treatment, however its 'sterility' is a factor of its low water content, not the fact that it contains glucose.

Vacuum dried glucose would be a solid non tacky product.

I expect, but cannot confirm that the vacuum process would render the botulism spores naturally (and often) found in honey to be harmless, but cannot say so definitively.

Your thought process on this one is a welcome positive affirmation of the OP's idea. So do you have any ideas about the use of vacuum dried salt in the Original post?

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09/04/2009 12:57 PM

We regularly use unprocessed honey on fresh cuts with excellent results. The blood coagulates quickly and the wound edges repair fast leaving no scar. Been using it for well nigh forty years. Bioramani

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