Incineration (waste to Energy plant)

I believe there are operating plants, and a large proposed waste-to-energy plant in the Philippines.

Much of the electrical energy in the Philippines is generated from steam from "inactive" volcanos, such as the one at Ormoc City, in Leyte, which I have toured.

<has difficulty from economical point of view , and the solid waste collection from houses ,thank you.>

Overcome/bypass/ignore all above hurdles and Incinerate .

WE have to live in a pollution-free Green Earth.Energy is cheap no more. Catch wherever from!

Technically, incineration is achievable- shown at many cities-.Search!

First, pls. clarify what would you call "waste", Is it the Municipal solid waste ( MSW ) or biomass waste or anyother type, since each has a different operating process. There is one plant operating in South India, on a commercial scale, for around 7 years. This is MSW based project and the collected waste is converted to fuel pallets, then fired in steam boiler for steam generation & used for power generation. There is another one set up in North India, approx. 3 years back but that is via the bio-gas route. These are the ones which I know of but I am sure there are few more plants operating. Proposals for large no. ( at least few tens if not hundreds ) of plants, all over India, were there but I am not sure of what happened subsequently.

Thanks

Ashok Toshniwal, Bangalore, India

<First, pls. clarify what would you call "waste", Is it the Municipal solid waste ( MSW ) or biomass waste or anyother type, since each has a different operating process.>

Actually anything that will burn(below 1000•C) and is Waste(for anybody) can be logically Incinerated at 1300•C +in Oxygen to yield steam- for all use - and to yield Synthesis Gas which can be processed to yield high-value Chemicals e.g. Methanol,DME,even Olefins via the MTO route.

Any Indian City worth calling modern should have gone that route in 2000+. Alas -none has taken one step even today-even so-called Hi-Tech Bangalore stinks/rots in 2007.

If you are thinking about municipal solid waste, "garbage", Hawaii has a plant on the island of Oahu. Check out http://www.honoluluhpower.com/

Yes...estimated cost RM2B, but now cancelled, people's power, protest, protest...and more protest. Dammed politician are bunch of numb skulls. If you let them loose, the whole country will eventually bankcrupt. What do they care, ....except every for an opportunity of making money. We are thankful that the average people in Malaysia still got the gray matter to differentiate waht is morally right. Now unofficially the stupid (actually very..very smart) Japanese company may be suing the Malaysian government. But have you heard in the Malaysian news about four or five months ago, out of the blues...some local business idiots have proposed to the Malaysian governtment a portable incinerator (huge trailler type) concept. They think that the incinerator cannot be localised, why not make it mobile ... incinetate the waste where people don't see. This is the most pathetic idea, what else on the drawing board? As you can see nothing stops for every oppoturnity to make money. There are better ways to solve the world waste problem! ..3Rs! That what we need. The funny thing the so called developed countries are dumping useless technologies to developing and third world countries,...including the bomb, war and misery, this is a real pitty. Not everybody are ignorent and idiotic, except those asshole politicians and crazy coporations, eager to destroy the country, collect all the moneys!

Why you so interested in waste incineration? This is crazy and harmful technology. Incineration was popular wayback in the 80s. Checkout and educate yourself on the history of waste incineration. Those sophisticated incinetation technology still eventually still creates toxic waste. Checkout ..currently there are about over 36 strains of documented dioxin as the the result of waste incineration. Ask any chemical engineer, if you can contain a chemical reaction.

I am an electronic engineer myself, the idea of an incinirator SUCK! man. What the world needs now for the sake of future generations, and poor Mother Earth is sustainnable development. Just an example for us to ponder; for every ton of paper we use, 10 tons of wood is required. We can't go on chopping up trees. We got enough of plastic waste! the world need to use bio-degradble plastics.

I am very interested in the bio-plastic manufacturing. Here in Malaysia we have all the land and resources to grow the starch for bio-plastic, but we need the manufacturing technology.

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<Dammed politician are bunch of numb skulls. If you let them loose, the whole country will eventually bankcrupt. What do they care, ....except every for an opportunity of making money. We are thankful that the average people in Malaysia >

I loved this from a fellow technologist-. CR4 is all about how we can get together and annihilate So-called democracy where bums decide the fate of zillions of useless voters who pushed some paper hoping for Change Somehow.

Biodegradable Plastic? Not yet likely.

High Temp. Oxygen fed Incinerator is the answer anywhere.Pays back in a couple of years!.

incineration will be a wrongname.

We will have to call such a System ^_GASIFIER

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We have a new plant in El Salvador, burning textile wastes and it´s been already two years working. It is at Textiles San Andrés; and as far as I know there haven´t been any problem with enviromental organizations.-

I know one was made in Monterrey, Mexico by a Mexican company. The client I think was the municipality of Monterrey.

In Orange County, Ca there has been a digester type system at a sewage treatment plant in operation for many years supporting reciprocation engine generators with methane gas. The methane must be mixed with natural gas to prevent damgae to the engine due to the caustic values of the methane.

<Across the road, a $140 million power plant developed by Fibrominn is rising from the flat ground. The first of its kind in the United States, the facility is expected to generate 30 jobs and 55 megawatts a year from 700,000 tons of turkey droppings and other biomass. Similar plants are planned for North Carolina and Maryland's Eastern Shore>

This from today's Washington Post Art. on Vodka Boom in Minnesota