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How Much Water Boils Off?

10/23/2009 8:08 AM

hello all, if i have water at 135DegC (2.15bar.g) being supplied into a vessel that is open to the atmosphere (0bar.g) how much water will actually be boiled off (flash steam if you like)? I think it will be:

(569.4kj/kg - 419.04kj/kg)/ 2257kj/kg = 0.066 = 6.6% flash steam produced at atmospheric pressure. So if i send 1000L @135DegC (2.15Bar.g) into the vessel i will only have 1000-6.6% = 934L of water (@100degC) in the vessel.

Can someone confirm if this is correct (or at least my thought process). This is not a homework question, i have started a new position within my company (i only have 2 years work experience so any assistance would be appreciated)

thanks

mike

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Re: How Much Water Boiled Off?

10/23/2009 10:41 AM

Hi Guest,

You are probably not too wide of the mark in absolute terms ;but as the incoming stream of water is above boiling point why not either a) reduce the temperature to below 100C before turning it loose to atmosphere and recover some useful energy or b) take the pipe down to the bottom of the tank and therefore ensure that the whole tank is at 100C. This latter suggestion will not save you any energy but may reduce the amount of flash steam to be dealt with.

Heat recovery should be the primary objective if this is a continuous process.

Regards,

Massey.

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10/24/2009 1:55 AM

I would say around 965 because the flash off of heat will release after only a few inches above the tank.

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Re: How Much Water Boils Off?

10/25/2009 7:46 PM

Your answer is correct.

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Re: How Much Water Boils Off?

10/26/2009 8:42 AM

Carry out a combined energy and mass balance using Steam Tables. All will become clear.

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Re: How Much Water Boils Off?

10/26/2009 12:36 PM

thank you for your reply. Could you explain a bit further what you mean.

thank you very much

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10/27/2009 7:12 AM

One fluid enters the flash boiling location. Two fluids leave it. So:

  • Conserve matter at the flash boiling location: q1 = q2 + q3, where q is a mass flowrate, 1 is the incoming stream, 2 is the outgoing liquid stream and 3 is the outgoing vapour stream.
  • Conserve energy at the flash boiling location: q1hf1=q2hf2 +q3hg3, where h is the enthalpy of the fluid 1, 2 and 3 at each one's temperature and pressure, the figures for which can be had from Steam Tables; f represents the liquid state and g the vapour state.

Two equations in two unknowns? The rest is arithmetic.

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10/27/2009 3:38 PM

thank you very much for your reply and the clear way you put it.

thank you

mike

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Re: How Much Water Boils Off?

10/26/2009 12:37 PM

thank you all for your replies.

mike

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