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Finding the Faulty Battery

11/22/2009 11:26 PM

Dear All,

Is there any method to find the faulty battery in a battery bank connected to UPS system?

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Re: How to find the faulty battery?

11/23/2009 1:57 AM

Usually a voltmeter and a power resistor should do it.

If you can safely measure each battery voltage under full UPS load, then you won't need the power resistor.

If you can only measure the batteries under no load, then add a power resistor in parallel with the voltmeter. Scale the resistor to load an individual battery at the normal discharge current.

Weak/bad battery will be usually be easy to find under load.

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Re: How to find the faulty battery?

11/23/2009 5:29 AM

Make your UPS to discharge mode by cutting of Input power to the UPS and take all the individual voltage readings of each battery.

Take another readings for every 10 min. of all batteries. 3 to 4 readings are sufficient to evaluate the battery discharge rate. By comparing all the readings you can find out easily how many batteries are discharing vey quikely comparing to the other batt.

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Re: How to find the faulty battery?

11/23/2009 6:00 AM

Dear anand,

Thank u very much for your reply.

We do this type of conventional method only. My request, is there any monitor or display unit to ensure the heathiness of the individual battery in a bank.

(Any advance method)

Please explain.

V.Jayasankar

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Re: How to find the faulty battery?

11/24/2009 3:08 AM

Dear Jayasankar

There are advance battery monitoring solutions available which can provide a variable discharging current, inform available Ah etc. Since these are expensive capital investment therefore most of the people monitor individual cell voltages, manually, and then decide the battery health.

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Ashok Toshniwal, Bangalore, India

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Re: Finding the Faulty Battery

11/24/2009 12:58 AM

Suspect the one that doesn't answer at roll call...

The one that doesn't bite when kissed...

The one that doesn't make the meter jump...

uh...thinking... you should try too...

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Re: Finding the Faulty Battery

11/24/2009 4:51 AM

This is a bit off topic, but you have already had enough hints on finding it.

You should take some time to find out why........probably the charger overcharges....if its adjustable, turn it down to only charge to a max of 13.6 volts per battery....I actually use 13.2 volts, but this means that the battery is never fully charged (but will have a long, long life!), only about 70% or so.

Always one battery is weaker than the others, this one breaks first......after replacement, another battery will be the weaker etc etc etc.....

Actually its a single cell that is weak, that causes the problem, but as the cells are all linked together in a single battery, its the battery we replace!!!

Posted off topic.

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Re: Finding the Faulty Battery

11/24/2009 8:51 AM

Everybody jumped on ANDY GERMANY but the point he made about one battery failing ,then another, then another is usually very accurate. Overcharge shortens battery life considerably. I think Triplite brand is the worst in my opinion. If your UPS is over 3 years old, consider your batteries, if they're sealed lead acid, to be fully used. Most of the better UPS' have auto tests that will spot he total pack getting weak, but not individual batteries. You'll still need to load and meter them individually.

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11/24/2009 9:12 AM

Who did? You are the only one who has replied since I posted......

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Re: Finding the Faulty Battery

11/24/2009 9:19 AM

An Electrical Testing company such as those certified by the Intenational Electrical Testing Association (NETA) normally performs these test using the EXPENSIVE equipment mentioned. Look for the nearest one on the neta.com site.

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11/24/2009 1:02 PM

You can measure the battery impedance and find out the faulty battery online.There are many suppliers for battery impedence testotrs like Megger,Doble etc... this can be done online.

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Re: Finding the Faulty Battery

11/25/2009 12:30 PM

There is a Cell Watch System available that will monitor the batteries.

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11/27/2009 8:22 PM

If you are using a system that has deep cycle car or rv type batteries, you can use an automotive battery tester. just hook it up, apply the load and it will tell you if it passes or not.

That is what I used at one place that I worked at. I would go around about every 6 months and test, replacing those that failed.

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Re: Finding the Faulty Battery

11/28/2009 10:38 PM

My Cyber Power UPS has a program called 'Power Panel Plus'. It uses a special series type conductor to the computer. Research that program to see if they offer a generic system.

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