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Do We Really Need Stop Signs?

12/02/2009 7:35 PM

Have you ever pulled up to a stop sign when traffic was non-existent to very light and there were no pedestrians in sight either? You could see, before you even got to the stop sign that there was no one within even 3 or 4 blocks from any direction. But, if you didn't want a useless ticket from that traffic cop hiding behind the bushes, in the alley a half block down, you were going to have to stop anyway. Then it begins, the beginnings of the end of respect for our legislators and the law enforcement community in general. It begins because, even if only in your subconcious, you think

"Why do we need a stop sign here when a yield sign will do every GOOD thing that a stop sign does?" It continues as you see the same abuse of our time and rights at intersection after intersection, and you come to the conclusion that the only thing that a stop sign can do that a properly obeyed yield sign can't do is give the police another excuse to pull us over and waste our time.

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Re: Do we really need stop signs?

12/02/2009 7:52 PM

You need to give up that puritanical prairie life and come to Pittsburgh. Not only will we teach you to say "yinz", but we'll show you that the only sane use for a stop sign is to provide a safety zone for pedestrians leaping out of the crosswalk as cars barrel through at 30 mph! Even cops run them.

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Re: Do we really need stop signs?

12/02/2009 10:24 PM

You are absolutely correct, however you actually answer your own question with this statement "that a properly obeyed yield sign can't do" .

Enforcement is the only reason that anyone obeys any traffic signs and Stop signs are easy to enforce. Enforcement of yield signs is much more difficult and is in fact subjective as to speed and or distance to oncoming traffic etc.

Until our society is mature enough to obey signs without the inducement of fear of prosecution, stop signs will be a fact of life.

In China where I live there are no stop signs or yield signs. Everyone gives way to every direction and strangely enough the traffic flows quite effectively. Road rage is simply not apparent/allowed.

People stop at traffic lights only if cameras are fitted. In order to drive yourself you have to know which lights have cameras, because if you stop at a red light where there are no cameras installed you will without doubt get a car up you arse.

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Re: Do we really need stop signs?

12/03/2009 4:31 PM

Terroristic enforcement of illogical laws is not nearly the only reason that one would obey a thoughtfully applied traffic control sign. Try enlightened self interest as the leading reason to obey them. As in it will cost you less time and money to obey them because, when properly used, they promote the smooth flow of traffic, which cuts down on crashes and injuries. If we could teach all of the drivers in the USA to be superlogical drivers we would need less than a third of the traffic control signs that we have now with none of them being stop signs!! A great byproduct would be the reduction in wear and tear on our vehicles, as well as less fuel being burned, and less travel time.

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Re: Do we really need stop signs?

12/03/2009 8:56 AM

You were one of the citizens that voted those legislators in place. They put the officials in office that place the stop sign there. If you feel that the sign was improperly place address it with them. You and members of your community have the power to get it removed. Now you just have to get the members of the community to agree with you.

Good luck with that. The lack of initiative for members of a community to get involved is why the legislators get away with some the stuff they do.

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