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The difference between safety grounding and power grounding

12/17/2009 6:07 PM

Hi everyone,

I would like to thank you all for helping me so far. However, this time I would like to ask a question and I hope someone make it clear to me so I can understand it well.

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What is the difference between safety grounding and power grounding?

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Re: The difference between safety grounding and power grounding

12/18/2009 3:09 AM

Please see the Wikipedia article on earthing systems.

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Re: The difference between safety grounding and power grounding

12/18/2009 3:33 AM

If by power ground, you mean a neutral or return, then that is a current carrying ground, whereas a safety ground only carries current during a fault event.

The neutral or return closes the circuit between mains potential, equipment power input, and mains reference potential (earth or ground). Without the neutral or return, no current can flow through the equipment and it will not work.

The safety or green wire connects the equipment enclosure or chassis to the mains reference (earth or ground). The green wire normally carries no current, because the mains phase and neutral conductors are isolated from chassis. The green wire only carries current in the event of a fault to the equipment case, and then it functions to limit case potential and also forcing the circuit protection (breaker) to open and remove the fault potential.

Or try this. If you lift the green wire from an operating equipment, nothing should happen. If you lift the neutral or return, the equipment seizes to operate.

Finally, if you lift the green wire and measure the potential from that green wire to the ground to which it was formerly connected, you should see only a small potential, as long as you use an older style meter with a few thousand Ohms per Volt meter movement. The reason it has to be stated that way is that many equipments have small line-to-ground capacitors (Y-caps) that bleed mains current to equipment chassis. Absent that leakage path, the green wire should measure zero Volts to ground, even when isolated from ground.

Should you lift the neutral off ground and measure its potential relative to ground, you will see full mains potential, assuming equipment is energized.

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Re: The difference between safety grounding and power grounding

12/24/2009 11:23 PM

Emc2,

I am sorry to feel a need to give a negative vote. Lifting grounding or grounded (neutral) wires, although a theoretical practice, is generally unsafe and strongly discouraged. I believe the OP was asking a different question than your answer. When working on circuits that have been disconnected from the mains or supply, it is often desirable or even required to install a safety grounding conductor from the de-energized wires to ground. This is to bleed to ground the induced voltages that can still be lethal as well as to provide a short-circuiting ground path in case the conductors accidentally become energized. Power grounding is done whenever an application requires a limit to the voltage between the energized conductor and the ground potential. It is done via transformers for systems that are not designed with a grounding point or at the source of supply for systems that have a commong grounding point available.

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Re: The difference between safety grounding and power grounding

12/18/2009 8:00 AM

Power Grounding also known as System Grounding is the grounding associated with the current carrying conductor in an electrical system and is necessary for the security of the power supply system.

Safety Grounding also known as Equipment Grounding is the grounding associated with non-current carrying conductors and is necessary for the safety of human/animal life and also the safety of property.

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Re: The difference between safety grounding and power grounding

12/19/2009 6:31 AM

Or try this.

A "grounded" conductor normally carries current.

A "grounding" conductor does not normally carry current.

All power "grounding" conductors are used for safety.

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Re: The difference between safety grounding and power grounding

12/19/2009 8:58 AM

i suggest a reading of two papers here . . .

http://www.schneider-electric.com/documents/technical-publications/en/shared/electrical-engineering/dependability-availability-safety/low-voltage-minus-1kv/ect173.pdf

http://www.schneider-electric.com/documents/technical-publications/en/shared/electrical-engineering/dependability-availability-safety/low-voltage-minus-1kv/ect172.pdf

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Re: The difference between safety grounding and power grounding

12/19/2009 4:13 PM

Consider a transformer with a center tap.From the center to either leg is one half the voltage from leg to leg.If you relate this to a pole transformer, the same applies.The supply voltage (in the USA) for residential, is 240/120 volts at 60 cylcles.The center tap is the neutral, which is bonded to ground at the pole, to a #6 copper wire that runs down the pole to a coil of wire on the bottom of the pole.This is called the MGN, or Multi Grounded Neutral. All power poles in the USA are connected to each other in this manner.This is also connected to the uninsulated neutral wire that goes from the pole to your house.

If all loads are 240 volts, and you have no 120 volt loads, the neutral (center tap) will carry zero current.This condition rarely exists, so the neutral carries the unbalance load return.If you have all 120 volt loads, and they are balanced across both phases equally,there will be no current on the neutral wire.This is also a very rare condition.So it is safe to say that in residential apppilcations, the neutral always carries some current.

The equipment grounding conductor, however is always green, and the terminal screws must be green where it attaches to the equipment.

At the main panel it is required for the neutral and equipment ground to be bonded together, along with the ground rod, and the metal plumbing piping, however ,in a subfed panel, they must be separated.The idea is to prevent a difference in potential between the two systems by providing a single ground point.The green provides a safety route if a short develops on an appliance or tool.This will cause the breaker to trip or the fuse to blow, thereby protecting the user from a dangerous shock.

Since the neutral and equipment ground are going to the same place on the main panel, one may ask "what's the difference, whether I use a ground or neutral?" The green wire is an emergency-use only lane, whereas the neutral is a busy interstate highway.There will always be sufficient current carrying capacity in time of need on the green wire.

Hope this helps.

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Re: The difference between safety grounding and power grounding

12/19/2009 6:14 PM

which country?

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Re: The difference between safety grounding and power grounding

01/26/2010 10:36 AM

dear

safety grounding - the grounding done for the safety of human and equipment

power grounding- the grounding done for the fault protection

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