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Murkowski amendment

01/07/2010 2:02 PM

I've received an e-mail urging me to call my senators to block an ammendment presented by Lisa Murkowski (R. Alaska) intended to prohibit the EPA from regulating greenhouse gases for one year. This is something that African nations won't like, since it would be a further indicator that the U.S. is not really committed to the prevention of catastrophic climate change (desertification, etc. - although forestry talks are yet to come).

I feel that we need to transition away from fossil fuels because of the irreparable loss of native species and dangerous damage to aquifers caused by MTR, as well as the increase in childhood asthma; not to menntion the horrific situation in the Middle East. However, some things I've read would indicate that cap and trade is an invitation to financial scamming (more financial scamming) and won't be productive of significant change. The crux of the matter is, that energy use has to be cost effective. Many people where I live (WV, USA) are struggling with heating costs - even if they do turn their thermostats down and wear their long johns indoors.

I know there is a depth of information and wide range of opinion among subscribers to CR4, and I would appreciate your views. (I may be a little slow in responding, if necessary, since I'm house-bound this week and the dial-up connection here in the boonies has been worse than usual - it has difficulty with a lot of pictures at the best of times.)

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Re: Murkowski amendment

01/07/2010 4:36 PM

You are correct in opining that "cap and trade is an invitation to financial scamming and won't be productive of significant change". But if socialism makes you feel good, go for it!

But don't expect the Capitalist's (China and India) countries to go along.

If I were you, I would focus on the mountain-top coal-mining going on in the state of West Virginia. All politics are local.

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01/07/2010 10:46 PM

Interesting that you should single out China and India as capitalist countries (China is still officially Communist) and also that you do not expect (only) them to "go along".

Go along with whom - with the US who has a CO2 production of around 19 tons/capita or with the UK with 8.6, or with China at 4.6 or with India at 1.2? (source Wiki).

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01/08/2010 7:56 AM

I guess you didn't see that I was poking fun of the US by implying that they are now, under the Obama presidency, quickly becoming a socialist country while the others mentioned have become capitalists.

Obama takes his orders from the European socialists.

I didn't mean to single out particular countries, there are many. These two are examples of many who have come to realize the benefits of enterprise on society.

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01/10/2010 12:25 AM

Bit slow me - got it now.

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01/07/2010 6:08 PM

Trouble is, the folks in WV for the most part don't own the coal there, or the legistlature either. Absentee owners pretty much do as they please.

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