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Force Applied on a Seal

01/14/2010 1:24 PM

I would like to ask you for information to resolve something I am working on with a sealing problem.

I have a cylinder with a vertical access port. I must install a plug to serve as a seal. This plug will be retained with a threaded cap.

I have two options: the plug wil be a cylinder, and will interface with a hortzontal sealing area. This would be a slightly raised ring that the cylinder would fit against, and the slight deforming of this ring would seal the port.

The other way would to be to use a cone shaped plug. This would mate with the port at an angle. The port would be machined with two bevels, so that the initial contact would again be like a ring, and the torquing of the cap would slightly deform this material and seal the port.

I cannot use a conventional gasket or flexible seal, due to the demands and enviroment this is operating in.

My question is, would additional torque, and thereby axial force on the plug be requiired to seal the conical plug? With the angle the plug and port intersect at, I see the forces will be applied at an angle, and I think additional force would be needed to get the same sealing.

I am basing this deformation on a situation I saw in a book where it calls this sealing "hertzian contact".

I thank you for you help.

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Associate

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Re: Force Applied on a Seal

01/14/2010 2:51 PM

I seal with this method all the time. I use a 40° bottom hole with... well let's make this easy on both of us. Google two companies that make just this sort of thing... "Valco fittings" "Swagelok" You can machine your hole and buy the plug off the shelf or you can buy a pre-machined weldalet and the plug that fits it.

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Re: Force Applied on a Seal

01/15/2010 1:17 PM

I don't understand why you make it so complicated,as you said at first a threaded plug with a flat surface under the hex. simply use a washer as a gasket,add just if you want a hub at the end of threads for a o ring or just use a special washer for this application like bond-seal or tredoring (rubered internal diameter of washer).This is safe for high pressures.Are you going to mechanize the cap of cilinder just to use a conic seat just because?

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Associate

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Re: Force Applied on a Seal

01/18/2010 12:02 PM

I probably should not speak for the OP however, a conical mating surface is more forgiving mechanically and provides a more reliable seal at any pressure but especially high pressure. And since these plugs and or fittings are so readily available off the shelf in a wide range of sizes there is no need to reinvent the wheel.

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